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#451 of 569 Re: "Fuel injection purge" ...scam? [brnnln1]
Dec 26, 2007 (1:45 pm)
I don't know if it's a "scam", but I *do* know that I just got a letter from Ford referring to my 2005 F150 Lariat Crew Cab with the 5.4 triton V8. Here's what it said:
"In the interest of customer satisfaction, Ford Motor Company is extending the limited warranty on the Fuel Injectors to a total of 11 years or 120,000 miles from the warranty start date, whichever occurs first. Coverage is automatically transferred to subsequent owners. This coverage exceeds the original warranty coverage provisions of your vehicle for this part"
They say, "This is customer satisfaction program 07M08 which is being extended to owners of certain 2005 Model year F150, F Super Duty, Expedition, and Navigator Vehicles equipped with 5.4L 3Valve Engines."
So, I think Ford has discovered a problem where injectors from a certain supplier stick in the open or closed position on some vehicles, so perhaps your dealer is trying to prevent the problem by proactively using injector cleaner...
BTW, I've had zero problems with my injectors over the last 38,000 miles. I get 14 to 16 mpg city, and 17 to 19 mpg highway.
#452 of 569 Re: 1988 f150 [mickeymouse2]
Dec 26, 2007 (2:06 pm)
Maybe I jumped the gun a little. Here is the lowdown on the specs and history.
1988 f150 XLT Lariat
50.l Auto 3 speed with overdrive
It seems to me that this happened after i got stuck in the snow and almost overheated the motor. When this happened my temp gauge went up close to the redline and a litle dark blue smoke came up from the passenger side of the hood. I shut it down right away and waited about 20 minutes. The truck started up fine and seemed ok. This was two weeks after I put in a new water pump and radiator. I drove the truck for about a week when I decided to check the fluids, this is when I noticed oil floating at the top of my coolant tank. I checked the radiator and sure enough same thing. My oil pressure is a little lower than it should be but not much, my temp is good too. When I had the waterpump off the coolant was clean. I brought it home and parked it until I get it sorted out.
Hope this helps.
#453 of 569 Re: F150 CrewCab or ??? [papajay]
Dec 26, 2007 (2:25 pm)
Sorry, just saw your message. If it were me, and I could wait a little while, I'd wait until the middle of 2008, when Ford comes out with their 2009 models. I am reading that Ford will be coming out with a DIESEL F150 in their 2009 lineup. That, for me, would be the perfect vehicle to do what you are wanting to do. You don't need all the xtra weight of a superduty to pull a 7500# trailer, but you would LOVE to have a diesel engine to do it, because of the higher torque, and the ability, if you wish, to use Biodiesel, wich is about to get pretty cheap.
In addition, you can get the new cool backup-video-in-the-rear-view-mirror option that Ford is coming out with this year. Check it out here:
#454 of 569 Re: 1988 f150 [slicknuggets]
Dec 26, 2007 (4:32 pm)
There may have just been some packing oil inside the radiator or water pump you installed or something may have just got into the cooling system when the water pump was replaced. Flush it out and see if it returns. If it does, do what I suggested to find out what is causing it. Just because the engine got hot, don't assume that the heads are now bad. I have even had brand new radiators have a leak in the internal oil cooler. Someone screwed up at the factory. The puff of smoke on the drivers side could have been anything; snow melting on something hot and oily, who knows.
#455 of 569 Re: 1988 f150 [mickeymouse2]
Dec 26, 2007 (6:48 pm)
Any advice on how to go about flushing the oil out of my cooling system?
#456 of 569 Re: 1988 f150 [slicknuggets]
Dec 26, 2007 (8:15 pm)
Autozone has a flushing tee you can buy. Cost is 1.00 or a flush kit that is about 4.00. There are only 3 size heater hoses. The kit has all 3 and female to female connector to attach your hose to the tee. Here is a helpful hint. Turn your garden hose on slowly until you see how fast the water is coming out what ever opening you made,(radiator cap). Turning your garden hose on full blast might drench you and your engine compartment. You want it coming out fast, just not so it makes a mess.
You cut one of your heater hoses and put the tee in there at the cut with hose clamps. Unscrew the cap on the tee and connect your garden hose to it. Take your radiator cap off. Turn your garden hose on to desired flow. Start the engine and turn on your heater. Everything will flush out through your radiator cap you removed. Run the engine and your garden hose until crystal clear water is coming out of the radiator. Here's a hint. Turn your heater on full blast to clear that out also. If you have done your own water pump and radiator, you will breez through this. Connecting the tee take about 2 minuts. Run the car at least 10-15 minuts during the flush. When your all done, don't forget to put the cap back on the tee you installed, and the cap on the radiator. The flush kit has a deflector nossle that sticks into the opening of your radiator cap. This helps control the direction of the flow of water away from eloectrical components and the fan. Driving arround with just water for a while isn't going to hurt anything, your doing your test for the oil thing. You can add coolant later by draining the petcock or removing the lower hose. Drive it for a while and see if the oil comes back. If it does, repeat flush and bypass the oil cooler with an after market air cooled oil cooler.
#457 of 569 Re: 1988 f150 [mickeymouse2]
Dec 26, 2007 (8:45 pm)
Thanks for the help. I will let you know how I made out.
Quick question. I cannot find a reference to an oil cooler in my haynes manual, my rad did not have one attached, just the upper lower rad hoses and the tranny lines. Is there somewhere else I should be looking or my model doesn't have one. I find reference to 7.5l and 5.8l lightning only.
#458 of 569 Re: 1988 f150 [slicknuggets]
Dec 27, 2007 (5:36 am)
The oil cooler on most vehicles is inside the radiator, thats why the trans lines connect there. Even the ones that are external are sometimes just an added inline cooler to the system, to help keep that trany oil cool. I'm not surprised about no mention in auto books. There is a lot that is not mentioned in auto manuals.
#459 of 569 Re: 1988 f150 [slicknuggets]
Dec 27, 2007 (6:34 am)
Almost forgot a tidbit of info. The external oil coolers are usally intended for added cooling of the trans oil for the tow package thing, or the manufactor found that the system needed extra cooling. They are also found(oil coolers) on power steering systems also, and for engine oil cooling also for those off road guys mostly. Just a little info to file away somewhere. Good luck!
#460 of 569 Re: 1988 f150 [mickeymouse2]
Dec 28, 2007 (6:17 am)
Thanks for the info. Just a quick couple of questions. If it was oil in my coolant wouldn't it look like chocolat milk? If it was a gasket wouldn't it go both ways by having coolant in my oil as well. I ran the truck yesterday just to see how it is operating and I noticed that I am not losing any oil pressure. I was a little happy with the gasket sealer I put on the waterpump now that I am running through it in my mind. Would that material float on top of the coolant.
am going to do the flush today and see how it goes.