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#8 of 314 how is this sludge removal done (for $700)???? by edwardh5 Jan 04, 2001 (7:06 am)
#9 of 314 Toyota 24.. by isellhondas Jan 04, 2001 (8:20 am)
I hope it's not too late, but...   I would NOT take your Toyota to one of the "mass merchants" you mentioned!!   1500.00 sounds way too high, I would check other Toyota dealerships.   You might also look for a quality independant that specializes in Toyotas.   armtdm's advise about buying your own discount parts and then bringing them to a shop to have them installed is a bad idea.   Most shops would either refuse the work or charge you additionsl labor to make up for the profit they didn't make on the parts. Not a good way to establish a relationship with a shop.   Kind of like bringing your own ham and eggs into a restaurant, and asking them to make your breakfast!
#10 of 314 To: Isellhondas by alcan Jan 04, 2001 (1:10 pm)
Excellent advice about buying cheap parts then getting them installed. In the event of a part failure, who warranties it if the shop hasn't made the profit from the sale of the part? They can't return it to a supplier and get a labour credit.
#11 of 314 Camry MAINTENANCE by toyota24 Jan 04, 2001 (4:11 pm)
thanx for all your suggestions.   My dealer said he will provide warranties on the parts that I get, IF they are genuine toyota parts. So I can purchase parts at toyotapart.com and then get the work done at a dealer.   I am not sure, if the dealer will honor the guarntee, he just told me that he would, so....
#12 of 314 Toyota24 by alcan Jan 04, 2001 (10:53 pm)
I might have misunderstood your previous post. If you bring genuine Toyota parts to a Toyota dealer for installation, there might not be any warranty issues. However, unless the cost saving is really big, you'd be further ahead to let the installing dealer supply the parts, if just for the comfort zone factor.
#13 of 314 Camry Maintenance by kenji Jan 06, 2001 (10:45 pm)
Regarding #1   If you diligently' took your car to dealer for every service/maintenance and no mechanical or any other problems so far,I think 1500$ is high. How much have you ever paid for maintenance(7500miles,15000mies,...30000miles...)? If you have changed anything, it might cost 1500$.
#14 of 314 Mechanics by armtdm Jan 07, 2001 (11:29 am)
Well, it's obvious you guys have not built up a good relationship with a local mechanic, non dealer that is. Yes, mine will put in Toyota parts that I bring him Know why, because other then simple stuff like filters etc.(if I want genuine toyota parts) he has to go to the dealer to get the parts anyway and he claims he pays (and me) through the nose. He may charge me extra labor but believe me, the savings in part cost (Lone Star Ford 15% over cost) and labor is huge over a dealer. ($300-$400 on a 120,000 mile service, timing belt, drive belts, water pump, plugs, wires) Warranty., toyota has to warranty the parts, I may be stuck for the labor but so far not an issue.
#15 of 314 Well... by isellhondas Jan 08, 2001 (8:42 am)
In this case it might be different. Most shops deeply resent a customer bring in their own parts.   They would consider a person like that to be the ultimate cheapskate since they typically depend on making a profit on both the parts as well as the labor.   But...if your guy doesn't care, go for it!
#16 of 314 how is this sludge removal done (for $700)???? by boag Jan 08, 2001 (3:26 pm)
I assume that there is was sludge to start with so the operation is quite simple. The only difficult step is making sure the check clears. The funny part is that I know my sister regularly changes her oil at 3k miles (because I tell her she is wasting her money) so there is no chance of any build up or break down of the oil. I chalk it up to questionable business practices. However, as on any bulletin board there is no way to verify my comments so we need to accept this as fiction and try to muddle through.
#17 of 314 how is this sludge removal done (for $700)???? by boag Jan 09, 2001 (4:31 am)
I had a typo in my previous post. I tried to say that there was "no sludge" in the engine to start with. Sorry for the mis-statement

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