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#41 of 314 Time Will Tell Isell... by wilcox Feb 12, 2001 (10:23 am)
80,000 miles on a 1996 timing belt?. I intend to stay around Edmunds for a few more years and will keep everyone updated....   If I screw up, then I'll let ya'll know! Promise.   If nothing happens and the belt gives service to 80,000 miles, then you'll hear about that too !......
#42 of 314 Playing the odds by brucer2 Feb 12, 2001 (11:22 am)
Most manufactures know how long different items will last. A plot of the expected failure rate/miles will look like a, somewhat distorted, bell curve. Then they pick what they think will be an acceptable failure rate (say 1% of all belts will by this milage), and that would be 60k miles. So you would have a 99% chance of going farther than 60k miles. The farther you go past 60k miles the greater the chance of the belt breaking. Without knowing what the failure data looks like, or what Toyota thinks is an acceptable failure rate, it's hard to say where, say the, 50-50 point is.
#43 of 314 Are Honda's Interference Engines by armtdm Feb 12, 2001 (1:29 pm)
If not then Honda can easily say 105,000. Who cares and their cars seem to require less maintenance and good advertisiing against toyota. With an interference engine ( assuming they are not) would they be willing to take that chance with the customers money????   We are talking $200 bucks here, not $2,000. Not worth the worry or hassle just DO IT!
#44 of 314 Toyota did increase the replacement interval by 210delray Feb 12, 2001 (4:50 pm)
for timing belts in most models from 60K to 90K starting with the 1998s.
#45 of 314 FWIW...Timing Belt Maintenance.... by wilcox Feb 13, 2001 (6:17 am)
My 1990 Mazda 626 racked up a tad over 90,000 miles before I voluntarily decided to have the timing belt replaced. I think the "recommended interval" (not "the required") mileage was 60K.     I asked the mechanic about the condition of the original belt. He stated that it looked "ok", but that it was a "good idea" to have gone ahead and had it replaced.    My plan calls for a 80,000 mile belt replacement in my '96 LE V6...thanks for the advice though.      I also had some other belts and hoses replaced at the same time... It was a fine little sedan.
#46 of 314 Time too by edwardh5 Feb 13, 2001 (6:33 am)
Out local Honda dealer goes with the mileage recommendation, but adds a time limit of either 5 or 7 years _ I can not remember which.
#47 of 314 Why not... by isellhondas Feb 13, 2001 (8:00 am)
Just go beyond the 80,000 miles?   We could do the Wilcox Timing Belt Test !   Drive it until it snaps! Hell, we could take bets!   The thing is, it probably WILL go the 80,000 miles. The 60K reccomendation I'm sure was set to allow leeway.   Another thing to think about is oil contamination.   Sometimes the front seal will start to leak and the oil will get on and ruin the timing belt.   I think that's another reason for the 60K reccomendation. You never know.
#48 of 314 hondas by dhanley Feb 13, 2001 (9:06 am)
Are interference engines, at least all the new ones, i think. So the 105K mile interval is not a plot against toyota.   dave
#49 of 314 removing oil filter on V-6 engine by rooba10 Feb 13, 2001 (7:55 pm)
Does anyone know how to take out the oil filter without making a mess?   I don't understand why didn't Toyota leave slight room under the filter so I can slide a piece of cardboard to deflect the draining oil. The hole in the engine mount bracket is worthless. The oil gets on the oil pan, and runs down on part of the exhaust.   On my second oil change, I let the oil drain from drain hole longer, and used one of those oil absorbent rags, it did better than the first oil change, but it still got some on the pan and exhaust. Not a big deal, I just wonder if someone has better method.
#50 of 314 Exactly why... by isellhondas Feb 14, 2001 (11:50 am)
I now have my oil changed. I got sick and tired of the mess, wiping up spills, disposing of the old oil etc...What a PITA !!

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