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#5 of 314 cblake by pilot13 Dec 31, 2000 (8:51 am)
Is there anywhere in the entire Town Hall where you haven't posted this nonsense about sludge? If your motive, with all this frustrated bad mouthing about Toyota, is simply to make them look bad, you have taken the wrong road. Unfortunately (for you at least), you've accomplished nothing in that regard. The finger of suspicion points toward you, not poor old Toyota. You have yet to learn that in situations like yours (real or otherwise--and in this case, otherwise), the first casualty is most often the truth! Take some advice---give it up!
#6 of 314 when change radiator hoses? by edwardh5 Jan 03, 2001 (7:41 am)
When is everyone changing their radiator hoses? I did the top one at 80,000 and it looked great (7 years).   I found a Goodyear hose from Autozone to be the same length as OE, but the Gates hoses and NAPA hoses were about 1/2 inch shorter on each end, but still fit on , I did not use them.
#7 of 314 oil sludge? by boag Jan 03, 2001 (8:16 am)
I believe that what post #3 was outlining was in the ABS system. The fluid should be changed every couple of years. Some makes state this in the owners manual some don't, but it's cheap insurance.   I'm a little new to the problem of the sludge, however, I know my sister had a problem with oil pressure on her camry (4 cyl) and I told her it looked like a sending unit or bypass problem. My mechanic was out of town for the holidays so she took it to the Toyota garage. They told her it was sludge and charged her close to $700. She then drove back to her house (approx 200 mi) and she had the same problems. Her maechanic replaced the sending unit and the problem disappeared. Just recently my wife has had friends who have been told by Toyota that they need the sludge removed from their engines. Seems to be a pattern.
#8 of 314 how is this sludge removal done (for $700)???? by edwardh5 Jan 04, 2001 (7:06 am)
#9 of 314 Toyota 24.. by isellhondas Jan 04, 2001 (8:20 am)
I hope it's not too late, but...   I would NOT take your Toyota to one of the "mass merchants" you mentioned!!   1500.00 sounds way too high, I would check other Toyota dealerships.   You might also look for a quality independant that specializes in Toyotas.   armtdm's advise about buying your own discount parts and then bringing them to a shop to have them installed is a bad idea.   Most shops would either refuse the work or charge you additionsl labor to make up for the profit they didn't make on the parts. Not a good way to establish a relationship with a shop.   Kind of like bringing your own ham and eggs into a restaurant, and asking them to make your breakfast!
#10 of 314 To: Isellhondas by alcan Jan 04, 2001 (1:10 pm)
Excellent advice about buying cheap parts then getting them installed. In the event of a part failure, who warranties it if the shop hasn't made the profit from the sale of the part? They can't return it to a supplier and get a labour credit.
#11 of 314 Camry MAINTENANCE by toyota24 Jan 04, 2001 (4:11 pm)
thanx for all your suggestions.   My dealer said he will provide warranties on the parts that I get, IF they are genuine toyota parts. So I can purchase parts at toyotapart.com and then get the work done at a dealer.   I am not sure, if the dealer will honor the guarntee, he just told me that he would, so....
#12 of 314 Toyota24 by alcan Jan 04, 2001 (10:53 pm)
I might have misunderstood your previous post. If you bring genuine Toyota parts to a Toyota dealer for installation, there might not be any warranty issues. However, unless the cost saving is really big, you'd be further ahead to let the installing dealer supply the parts, if just for the comfort zone factor.
#13 of 314 Camry Maintenance by kenji Jan 06, 2001 (10:45 pm)
Regarding #1   If you diligently' took your car to dealer for every service/maintenance and no mechanical or any other problems so far,I think 1500$ is high. How much have you ever paid for maintenance(7500miles,15000mies,...30000miles...)? If you have changed anything, it might cost 1500$.
#14 of 314 Mechanics by armtdm Jan 07, 2001 (11:29 am)
Well, it's obvious you guys have not built up a good relationship with a local mechanic, non dealer that is. Yes, mine will put in Toyota parts that I bring him Know why, because other then simple stuff like filters etc.(if I want genuine toyota parts) he has to go to the dealer to get the parts anyway and he claims he pays (and me) through the nose. He may charge me extra labor but believe me, the savings in part cost (Lone Star Ford 15% over cost) and labor is huge over a dealer. ($300-$400 on a 120,000 mile service, timing belt, drive belts, water pump, plugs, wires) Warranty., toyota has to warranty the parts, I may be stuck for the labor but so far not an issue.

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