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Toyota Camry, Sedan
#8538 of 10206 Just bought another Camry
Feb 03, 2011 (6:54 pm)
This was our third Camry and we also have an '08 Avalon. We were looking for a small grocery getter to replace our '03 Camry with 168k on it. I drove/sat in/ priced pretty much the whole market of small cars. We went to the Toyota dealer to look at an advertised leftover 2010 Corolla LE. Drove it and weren't too impressed. Drove the Scion Xd and it was better. Drove the Matrix and it was ok. The salesperson said they had the '11 Camry for $15,900 so we drove one and loved it. It was within 5mpg of all the rest.
So, about the buying experience. Rick Hendrick Toyota advertised a "2011 Camry for $15,900 , no gimmicks". First thing out of the mouth of the salesperson is "That's with an active duty military discount.... the price is $16,400." So they bring a buyer agreement with a price of $17,500. I point it out and they say.... "oh, that's because you don't have a recent college grad discount." I say "that's not what you said" pointing to the pad of paper I had sitting beside me to write such things down. Any time they said something, I wrote it down. Along with the added price were $499 Dealer Admin cost, $299 floor mats, $399 window tint, and a $985 "Hendrick Package" consisting of keyless entry, mud flaps, body side molding and maybe a couple of other things.
So I sent the agreement back to have the price "fixed". When it came back I said I didn't want floor mats, window tint, or the Hendrick Package. That was met with cries of disbelief... "What do you mean you don't want them? Everybody wants them!!" COMPLETE BS. OEM Floor mats are under a $100, the Camry comes stock with UV blocking glass, the rest is worth a couple of hundred.... NOT $1700. I told them where I could get an LE for very close to that total price (Autotrader.com and Cars.com) and it I was prepared to walk.
After about 10 minutes of us both repeating the same thing over and over a third level salesperson came in and said "If I could get one without that, would you buy it?" I said "sure" So they "found" one in the color of Sandy Beach after about 15 minutes. Turns out that it just so happened to be getting the "standard" window tint so they couldn't take that off, could they? Complete BS again. Just a final attempt to bump the price $400. This was well into our fifth hour at the dealer and my wife was hungry (she's mild hypoglycemia) and I was getting bored and starting to loose my sense of humor. So, I didn't call them liars and just said, "OK." We did add on the $299 keyless entry (worth about $180).
What followed was a two people who tried to sell me accessories (paint and interior stain protection, Navigation, trims..yada,yada,yada) and insurance (warranty programs, maintenance programs, debt life insurance, yada, yada, yada) all of which I turned down. OTD price was $17450 ($18,159 tax/title/tag.) We got $3000 for our old Camry (needed $1500 of tires/body work/mech work)
Over all I left at least $400 sitting on the table un-negotiated. Who knows what another hour of BS would have netted if anything. The color is a little strange (off-putting) at first but the warm buttery gold color is unique enough to keep from being unattractive. The window tint on the Sandy Beach looks somewhat getto for my taste so I regret not making them take it off.
Final answer, we love the '11 Camry base and feel we got a good deal. We plan on keeping it for 10 years / 160,000 just like our last one. We do hear the clunking of the tranny sometimes not locking up right away. The 2.5l engine and the 6spd tranny are oddly trying to keep the motor under 2000rpm ALL the time. Maybe after break in the motor/tranny package will be as excellent as our well loved 2.4 that regularly returned 35mpg on trips.
Feb 05, 2011 (8:00 pm)
I got a new 2011 Camry LE with Options (Blue tooth, Alloy wheel, Leather Sears, Vehicle protection) as drive out for 21800
#8540 of 10206 Re: 2011 Camry LE [sethubala]
Feb 06, 2011 (5:59 am)
To make a price comparison useful, you need to post the MSRP of the vehicle (so it can be an apples to apples vehicle comparison), and the negotiated price BEFORE tax/tag/license fees (but including all dealership admin fees, etc). While an OTD figure is the best figure for a singular consumer to compare his/her prices, because states and cities have varying tax rates it's pretty much a useless number when trying to compare national deals. You can find sales tax rates varying 7+%.
#8541 of 10206 Re: 2011 Camry LE [kiawah]
Feb 06, 2011 (6:04 am)
It got a MSRP of 25643 with Options (EX, QA, L3, P2) in the State of Texas
#8542 of 10206 Re: 2011 Camry LE [kiawah]
Feb 06, 2011 (11:23 am)
Ammendment to message #8539 to reflect MSRP....
The MSRP for the Camry Base we bought in North Carolina is $21,655 plus the window tint (MSRP $399) and adding the Keyless Entry (MSRP $299) for a total of $22,353. Out the door price including tax, title, tag fee for us on Jan 31 was $18,159.
I bought Husky all weather heavy duty floor liners, paint protection, OEM fog lights, OEM mud flaps off of Ebay all for just over $200.
#8543 of 10206 Camry I4 SE with extra value-pky #1 Bay area
Feb 07, 2011 (3:32 am)
anyone got a camry se I4 with extra value package 1 in bay area?
please share your experience. thanks
Feb 08, 2011 (6:54 am)
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#8545 of 10206 Re: Just bought another Camry [kbetts1]
Feb 13, 2011 (5:49 pm)
I found this to be a good insight as to how dealers try to maniputlate you. I'm not sayin' you didn't get a good deal. But I would have walked just because they played so many games. Enjoy your camry. Still hangin' on to my 01 with 177k miles on it. It won't break down so I can get a new one. Not complain' though.
#8546 of 10206 2011 camry se
Feb 13, 2011 (9:45 pm)
I just bought a 2011 Camry SE with extra value package for 22,500 with tax, tag and title it came out to 25,100. It was 0 down and 0 percent interest for 60 months was this too much? Invoice was 23,500 and msrp was 24915.
#8547 of 10206 Re: Just bought another Camry [snowallergy]
Feb 14, 2011 (1:42 am)
Ref. Don't Get Taken Every Time
It must be pretty hard to find a dealer who won't play games if they have to write a book about it. I think the biggest disadvantage is that we buyers only go through the negotiation process every few years (and we Camry buyers much less often).
I guess I see the games as a weakness on the part of the dealer. You just end up price shopping from dealer to dealer. OTOH, I expect to pay more at a dealer with integrity because the added value of knowing they will make sure they give you what you paid for (business/accounting term is 'goodwill')
I felt sorry for the sales team because my best guess is that the manager had placed them in a position where they had to lie to bump up the price enough for their commission. The delivery member of the sales team made an excuse for them saying "They aren't very experienced in the negotiations." I'm not sure if that meant he thought I WAS experienced or if that meant that they did the right thing in the wrong way or that the process took too long or what. Whatever, the comment just struck me as strange.
Overall, we're happy with the price based on post sale research and although the buying experience was tiring we were relatively unscathed by it. Hopefully we won't the "Don't get taken every time" book for another eight years and 170k.