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#819 of 10206 RE: Purchased 2004 Camry LE4 
Mar 07, 2004 (7:13 am)
You're not crazy, just rationale. You got a great price, because any NEW Camry with a drive-out under $20K is a good deal. However, I think that Toyota is reaching a low point in their customer relationship - quality - profit motive, because they don't offer ABS and all-airbags, as standard.
I'm in a similar boat - I want a 4 cyl with ABS, side airbags, mats, and 16" steel wheels. I asked the dealer if the LE with ABS included drum or 4 wheel disc ... and they couldn't give me a straight answer. And the Toyota service 800# told me to talk to my dealer.
I never did get a straight answer, but I can't get 16" wheels on the LE 4 Cyl. So I went with the SE, special ordered from the factory. Cost is $20K + ~$2K TTL etc. vs. base LE for $16K (not validated).
I imagine your LE is 4 Cyl, not 6 cyl and that is
~$1000. ABS is about $300, altho I've seen dealers try to get more for this option.
The SE6 may have some different toys that I'm not aware of, over the LE6, but it does have a little different styling, wheels, suspension, which I would estimate at another $1000.
I think the additional $$$ is pure profit by playing off midlife crisis for guys who can't afford a 'Vet.
Having said that, I've been driving a 1989 Camry for 15 years with no problems. Very High Quality car. I think Toyota experimented in 1992-1997, then learned from their mistakes. So, I think the 2004 or 2005 is going to be some of their best for the next 15 - 20 years. So, I'm purposely putting my 1989 out to pasture (Giving to my nephew as his first car... my kids are too old for an old, boring Camry.)
I like the ride of the LE better than the SE. The SE handles a little better, but suspension is tighter and the seats aren't as well-cushioned. But I got my safety equipment, which is worth the extra $2K to me.
BTW - Did you see anything about an Arbitration Agreement?
#820 of 10206 Newbie to buying experience -- is this a good deal?
Mar 08, 2004 (12:37 pm)
I got a quote an a Camry LE - 4 cylinder, base model with ABS & Carpetted Floor Mats, and $10 oil changes for life of car. $17,100 (I'm assuming destination fees, tax not included in the price but not sure). Any thoughts on this price -- high/low/avg?
Mar 08, 2004 (2:49 pm)
Two things, in response to your question regarding the LE- You cannot get any LE 4 with rear discs, even the ones with ABS option. Also to the best of my knowledge (very strong when it comes to Camrys), the seats in all the models- are the exact same design and have the same padding, so the SEs seats are no different than the LEs, other than fabric/leather choices.
#822 of 10206 Re: keyser
Mar 08, 2004 (7:52 pm)
That is way better than my deal, and I didn't get ABS! Don't wait, just get it. And while it still hasn't been added to this website yet, despite my e-mail two or three days ago, Toyota now has a $1,000 rebate on 4 cyl Camrys, at least in some areas of the US. Go to www.buyatoyota.com & check.
#823 of 10206 2004 Camry LE Limited Edition
Mar 08, 2004 (11:36 pm)
Hello, all, and please, be patient as this is my girst post. I am close to closing on a 2004 Camry LE, the "Limited Edition" Camry, which is an LE w/ the SE package < special pearl white paint, fog lights, champagne interior, 16'' aluminum wheels, etc > and ABS, moon roof and all bags as options. MSRP is $23,840. The price offered is 21,726 which is $500 over invoice, but Toyota has a $1000 rebate which makes the price 20,726 + tx, license/registration, which unfortunately in AZ is HUGE, but that's another discussion...I have never bought a car w/ a rebate offered and am a bit confused. I bought a Honda LX V6 <2003> last June and paid $500 under invoice or $200 over wholesale and got splash guards, extra tint,and cargo tray,+ a 60K warranty. What gives? Help! Also, this is a cash, no trade in deal! Feel free to email me zguytheriver.com. Thanks!
Mar 09, 2004 (6:37 am)
alpha01 is right. Rear disc brakes and ABS are standard on V6 model. And I think they called it sport seats in my SE. I have no leather. I think all seats are designed the same. But the fabric is different on SE than other cloth seat on other models. It attracts more dust and hair.
#825 of 10206 XLE 4dr Sedan (2.4L 4cyl 4A), $22141
Mar 09, 2004 (2:15 pm)
2004 Toyota Camry
XLE 4dr Sedan (2.4L 4cyl 4A)
HV XLE Premium Plus Package
GY Side and Curtain Airbags
HD Heated Front Seats
CF Carpet Floor/Trunk Mat Set
I got a offer for $22141 (already included $750 cash rebate), before tax, title and registration.
Is this price good?
Mar 09, 2004 (6:35 pm)
I got that exact same car as an 03 except I got the premium pkg instead of the premium plus pkg. My car was $22,150 plus a $1,000 rebate. My total OTD was $23,500, so after rebate $22,500. The difference in price between the two pkgs was about $700 (only difference is the sunroof), so sounds like a wash. I paid $1000 less, but you are getting a $700 sunroof that I did not get. I thought mine was a great deal and yours sounds like a great deal too. Go for it!
#827 of 10206 Camry LE Limited Edition
Mar 09, 2004 (8:54 pm)
I bought the 2004 Camry Limited Edition w/the SE package < fog lights, fancy interior, 16" aluminum wheels, etc> and the ABS <AB> ,all air bags< Gy> moon roof . Price of $20,000 with rebate included, a hair under $22,400 OTD. This is in Tucson. Phoenix area offering for a bit less , but I am afraid they'll pull some shenanigans when I drive the 100 miles up there......It's a beautiful one of a kind color: pearl white w/ champagne interior w/ fake wood trim etc...Lemme know what ya think. AZGuy
#828 of 10206 RE: Camry LE Limited Edition
Mar 10, 2004 (5:34 pm)
$20K is a great deal. The SE is effectively an LE with a few more touches . I'm buying an SE with about the same options, but without the nice wood, interior, and unique color for about $21K ... about $22K OTD in Texas. SO, I don't think you could have done much better and still get all the nice extra touches. Congrats.