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#7309 of 10032 Re: $21,926.75 for 2009 Camry LE???? [hmshah]
by cappy44
Apr 28, 2009 (2:54 pm)
I bought the Camry LE Automatic at Champion Toyota. Very smooth process. They were very professional and easy to work with. I paid $300 over what you paid, primarily because the deal was already nice and they were a lot better to work with than Mike Calvert, where I had absolutely the worst car buying experience ever, very rude and dismissive. I don't mind rewarding a well-run shop, and from what I observed, the difference between the two was night and day. I would highly recommend Champion to anyone else in the Houston area. Mike Calvert would be at the bottom of the list, as a dealer of last resort. I purchased from them before, in 2003, and it was painful then, although not as bad as last night.
To be more specific, the salesman offered me $1,000 for a 1998 Honda Civic EX Coupe for trade-in. I told him it was worth considerably more. After I mentioned the Blue Book value (conservatively valued at "Fair" condition despite the fact that the timing belt package had been done in the last 20,000 miles, which includes water pump, plus all new wires, plugs, rotor, distributor cap, and fairly new tires and battery) he told me he would be surprised if we could get that much (AutoTrader has them priced starting $1,000 above the Blue Book price, by the way). He said if that was going to be a dealbreaker, we were through negotiating because he wasn't budging.
I proceeded, figuring I'd private sell it (I'd offered the trade-in only for convenience). When he gave me his price for the Camry LE, he said he was firm on it, never asked me to counter-offer, and said if we weren't interested we were free to leave. As we started to leave, he and his manager asked me what was wrong with their price. I told the manager it was considerably higher than my research indicated. He sarcastically asked if I'd done my research on the Internet and claimed the invoice on that basic Camry LE 4-cylinder (no options added) was $21,700. He said he doubted anyone could sell that car for any less, and that all dealers across the United States have exactly the same amount in the same cars (not true - inventory costs affect what a dealer has in a car, and Gulf States Toyota tends to aim higher than others.
I told him I'd been planning to buy the car and write a check. He blew that off and said whether it was cash or financing, it was all the same (technically true, except the very car I had test-driven a week earlier had been one the salesman said had been returned due to the customer failing to get approved for financing).
Anyway, if anyone cares for "no haggle pricing" at the maximum price, Mike Calvert is probably the place to go. They apparently don't seem to understand car negotiations.
#7310 of 10032 Re: $21,926.75 for 2009 Camry LE???? [cappy44]
by jhouston09
May 03, 2009 (7:35 pm)
Hi, cappy44,
would you mind share the salesman's name at Champion Toyota? thanks.
James
#7311 of 10032 Re: $21,926.75 for 2009 Camry LE???? [hmshah]
by jhouston09
May 03, 2009 (9:18 pm)
hi, hmshah, it sounds a good deal, would you mind share the salesman's name at Champion?
#7312 of 10032 2010 Toyota Camry XLE vs 2009 model
by lux_bee
May 04, 2009 (1:09 pm)
I test drived a 2010 Camry XLE and really liked it. But the best price I got so far is 500 over invoice. While 2009 Camrys are on serious discount, should I buy a 09 model instead?
#7313 of 10032 2009 Camry LE
by linhman
May 04, 2009 (3:47 pm)
Thank you to those who have shared their buying experience. I was able to purchase Camry LE for the price of $20,200 OTD with owner rewards package in Irving TX. Cowboy Toyota also has very good price, but they did not have exactly what I wanted.
Owner Rewards Package :
•Body Side Molding
•Nightvision Mirror Upgrade
•Mud Guards
•Rear Bumper Protector
•Carpet Mat Set
•Carpet Floor Mats
•Rear Trunk Mat
#7314 of 10032 Re: 2010 Toyota Camry XLE vs 2009 model [lux_bee]
by mcdawgg
May 04, 2009 (5:23 pm)
How much less is a comparable 2009? I'd drive an '09 and see if the extra money for the 2010 is worth it.
#7315 of 10032 Re: 2010 Toyota Camry XLE vs 2009 model [mcdawgg]
by lux_bee
May 05, 2009 (8:39 am)
The difference should be in the thousands. I got a pretty good quote on a 2010 XLE with heated leather
24691+tax,tag,doc. The 2009 model is $1500 less as of yesterday.
#7316 of 10032 Re: 2010 Toyota Camry XLE vs 2009 model [lux_bee]
by mcdawgg
May 05, 2009 (9:03 am)
In my region, there is a 1,500 rebate on 2009 Camry, so that's the difference. But you could do better, because the $1,500 is from Toyota, not the dealer, and the dealer is trying to get rid of the 2009s. So the difference between '09 and '10 should be greater than the rebate amount. I just wonder how much more? Also, I would think the '10s have a little higher MSRP, so that enters into it also.
#7317 of 10032 Re: 2010 Toyota Camry XLE vs 2009 model [mcdawgg]
by lux_bee
May 05, 2009 (10:07 am)
since the price I got for the 2010 XLE is 600 under invoice, The difference is about 1500. The invoice on a 09 XLE with heated leather and a bunch of other options that are made standard now on 2010, is 25933. So with all the incentives it won't go under 23000.
#7318 of 10032 Re: 2010 Toyota Camry XLE vs 2009 model [lux_bee]
by kiawah
May 05, 2009 (10:08 am)
what is the doc fee for that dealership?