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Replying to: caaz (Sep 30, 2008 6:59 pm) since toyota is offering $1000 discount now, can we get cheaper than $17695? thanks in advance. |
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wow! no posts in 3 days. Guess not too many are buying camrys these days. Wonder how October is going to be for the dealers compared to Sept. Probably much worse. dmcd
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Replying to: dmcdonnell (Oct 09, 2008 12:20 pm) |
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Replying to: brianlewis (Sep 25, 2008 1:09 pm) Specifically, only the XLE and Hybrid have the following standard features: * Acoustic noise-reducing front windshield * Chrome tipped exhaust * Smart Key System with Push Button Start and remote illuminated entry * Remote Keyless entry system * Metallic-style interior trim with chrome door handle accents * Multi-adjustable power driver's seat with adjustable seatback and lumbar support * Defroster-linked CFC-free dual zone auto climate control with electric compressor and Plasmacluster™ ionizer and rear-seat vents * Trunk-mounted cargo net * HomeLink® universal transceiver In addition, only the XLE and Hybrid have the following optional features: * Heated front seats * Leather-trimmed seats and door trim with integrated armrests, driver and front passenger power seats and dual front and rear map pockets * Voice-activated DVD navigation system with JBL® AM/FM 4-disc in-dash CD changer with satellite radio capability, MP3/WMA playback capability, auxiliary audio jack, hands-free phone capability via Bluetooth® wireless technology, eight speakers in six locations and FM diversity Reception Additionally, the XLE also includes the following standard features which are optional on Hybrid: * Alloy wheels * Heated mirrors * Power tilt/slide moonroof with sliding sunshade * Leather wrapped steering wheel * JBL® AM/FM 6-disc in-dash CD changer with satellite radio capability, MP3/WMA playback capability, auxiliary audio jack, hands-free phone capability via Bluetooth® wireless technology, eight speakers in six locations and FM diversity reception * Auto-dimming rearview mirror with compass * Rear personal reading lights * Dual illuminated visor vanity mirrors Likewise, the Hybrid contains the following standard feature which is optional on the XLE: * Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) with Traction Control (TRAC) Since both models have a different subset of the same combined standard and optional features, to compare a Hybrid with Option Package D to an XLE with option package B to get an identical set of features. When you compare identically equipped Camry XLE and Camry Hybrid models, the difference in price is only $1355 as detailed here: $26,150 - Hybrid base $3,119 - Option Package D: Heated front seats/outside mirrors, dual illuminated vanity lights, personal reading lights (CQ), Carpet Trunk/Mat Set (CF), Leather trimmed seats (LA), Alloy wheels, 6-disc cd changer, Bluetooth, leather wrapped steering wheel, auto-dimming mirror, Homelink Universal Transceiver $720 - Delivery $29,989 - Total $25,575 - XLE base $2,140 - Option Package B: Heated front seats (HD), Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) with Traction Control (TRAC) (VS), Leather trimmed seats (LA) $199 - Carpet/trunk mat set $720 - Delivery $28,634 - Total So, by comparing the Hybrid to a comparably equipped XLE, there is only a a difference of $1355 You could argue that you can still get a base Camry for $20,915, which is $5000 less than the base Hybrid, but at this point you are comparing two different cars with two sets of standard features, which is not an accurate comparison. By comparing the Consumer Reports overall mileage ratings on the standard 2.4L Camry engine with the Hybrid engine, you will use 441 gal vs 625 gal a year if you travel 15,000 miles, which is a savings of 184 gallons, which translates to $736 at $4 a gallon. So, you'll recoup your investment in your second year, and every year thereafter you save $712 or more if gas goes up. Put another way, this $1355 will increase your monthly payment by $21 a month  4.75% for 72 months (current rate at PenFed.org, which anyone can get with good credit), but you will be saving $33 a month in gas over that same period, thus it is a net savings. To your other point that the Hybrid is not discounted, by emailing dealers for quotes directly or via cars.com or edmunds.com, you can easily save up to $3000. I just purchased a fully loaded Camry Hybrid for $29,003, a savings of over $3000 (got email quote from Jack Safro Toyota in Brookfield, WI and received vehicle within 10 weeks of down payment). |
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Replying to: ruc2827 (Oct 09, 2008 2:43 pm) |
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Hi, I would like to thank this forum, as I was preparing to buy my TCH for last 3 months. Sent email to all bay area dealers and got best quote from Gilroy. Sunnyvale was next best with Costco pricing. All others wanted MSRP or above. I paid 29,828 + fees (that came to 800 over invoice + Dest + TDA) I had wanted TCH with FE CQ LA SR UT and I got that + CF with my choice of colors... Buying experience was the best I ever had. In and out of the dealership in less than one hour. No pushing for extra stuff during finance. Smooth as silk... HTH. |
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Replying to: indianajohns (Oct 09, 2008 3:39 pm) Well, I'l glad we're giving you a good laugh. You could actually buy a 1991 Corola for say $500 and save a whole lot of money and have a very small payment. Ten percent down and for 5 years your monthly payment would only be $8.50. You could buy all kinds of gas with your savings. But seriously, not everyone buys a hybrid to strictly save money. I doubt that anyone that is driving a TCH would seriously be happy driving a Yaris. Yaris has a target market and it's not people with $30,000 to spend on a vehicle. The camry size appeals to a lot of people and having a car this size that also gets 38 mpg makes it worth a premium to some, myself included.
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Oct 10, 2008 3:40 am) Second, a hybrid, unlike all other cars sold, keeps its value, I can easily sell it now with 13K on it for what I paid for it. So with the argument of why not buy a used hybrid, they cost the same as new, thats why. Finally, for those of us with 3 kids, and car pool, finding a decent used car that will fit two adults, two car seats and a teenager, and still get decent mileage, is not as easy as one thinks. The TCH is a tight squeeze and it is one of the largest of cars thats reliable. We could have used a Crown Vic, plenty of room, but not at 18 MPG, and the price of a decent used one that isnt loaded with miles is ~14K, and used car loans are ~12% for cars around 5 YO. Depreciation on one is also staggering. For me, my daily drive is ~100 miles, we easily put on 500 miles a week. I have already worn out 2 cars in the past 3 years, because I bought them with high miles to "save" money, but repairs on them cost more than the cars were worth. So for a few of us, the why not buy used instead of hybrid, doesn't work! I dont know about you, but I tried it, didn't work. BTW last night I added up all the gas I used in the TCH, and divided the total miles by the gallons, and the car is averaging 40.12 MPG. Not too shabby for a large family sedan. But seriously, not everyone buys a hybrid to strictly save money. I doubt that anyone that is driving a TCH would seriously be happy driving a Yaris. Yaris has a target market and it's not people with $30,000 to spend on a vehicle. The camry size appeals to a lot of people and having a car this size that also gets 38 mpg makes it worth a premium to some, myself included. Bingo, I didn't buy it to save gas, I have a Hyundai Veracruz that is the perfect vehicle for the family trips, but is too big for a daily driver, and I just didn't feel like putting a ton of miles on it, I want it to last way past the pay off date. I also found that filling it twice a week was annoying because I usually find it needs gas halfway between my house and my work and usually on the way home, where gas stations are few. I traded a Prius in on it, and frankly I missed driving the prius, although I didnt miss the Prius, it was too small and handled like a little go cart. I found an exceptional deal on the TCH, and snapped it up and glad I did, I would not be able to find one today for what I paid for it, and have been enjoying it ever since. I found that if I drive the Camry like a goof(like most people drive), IE gas wasting mode, I get 33 MPG, but if I drive it casually, light acceleration, coast to stops, I get 38+. Much better than EPA. I Like the Camry, and I could not say that for any used car out there. |
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Replying to: indianajohns (Oct 09, 2008 3:39 pm)
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Replying to: ruc2827 (Oct 10, 2008 7:12 am) Good job. |
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