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Toyota Camry, Sedan
#4642 of 10203 Re: Camry LE Pricing [srjorgen]
Dec 27, 2006 (8:20 pm)
I purchased my used Toyota Camry (1997 XLE) 5 years ago from a local dealer, was promised the moon and received pathetic death from them. Just recently, dealing with multiple issues with very poor service and incompetency in ordering and installing a door handle I felt compelled to purchase online.
I'm sorry but this comment simply tells me you are now blindly going into your dealership. I guess if you don't talk to them they can't promise you anything to be disappointed with down the road???? Purchasing online will not help you avoid a bad dealership.
I do not want to haggle with a salesperson who tries to sell me unwanted/unneeded warranties, options, etc. I am sure we can all add to this paragraph.
I'm probably not nearly as busy as you. However in the dealings I've had it never took me more than say 2 seconds to say "No".
I personally do not feel guilty for shopping around to get the best deal for my money.
And you shouldn't. This is America and it's your right to spend your money in any way you see fit. I think it's your responsibility to yourself and your family to not needlessly waste your money.
I have personally never received these types of tactics at Walmart, nor do I expect them there.
Walmart uses no tactics on Consumers. They simply pressure the vendors for lower prices to pass along the savings to the consumer. They are big enough to get by with it and they are big enough to survive while their competition goes out of business. Toyota really does not care if there is a Mom and Pop dealership as long as their cars and trucks are being sold. Actually if Toyota cared about how the cars were sold they would never put up with the things I've read on this forum from buyers in the SouthEast Region and some of the other areas. I don't feel sorry for Toyota and if I lived in one of those areas where dealers gouged consumers I would not own a Toyota.
Now that I have felt compelled to defend my reason to shop via internet, I guess I will share pricing with the dealers.
As I said, I agree with that! These dealers deserve no better than what they participate in themselves so I see no reason that their offers should not be shared in the pursuit of a better price. However I would try to consider where I buy from, so that ultimately you do get a good dealership even if it costs you a few dollars extra.
When my Infiniti needed service the dealer came and picked the car up at my house (120 miles away). If I was as busy as you are then I would not want to drive to another town for my service unless it saved me a lot of money.
#4643 of 10203 Re: Internet Intricacies (translation: Ugh) [catalina101]
Dec 27, 2006 (8:34 pm)
It is the holidays and many dealerships are having end of the year sales going on. Perhaps you'l get more emails soon. However be prepared to haggle back and forth there as well if they don't answer your questions. Poor communication is the same reguardless if it's in person or on emails. At least with face to face you can possibly read thier intent.
Toyota's seem to be a little different than a GM or Ford car as when you order one of those they will place your order exactly as you want it. From what I've read on these postings Toyota can indeed build your car if you wait, but most dealers are taking orders and then finding a vehicle from the regional allotment. Works as well and is quicker but they may not get exactly what you want.
I would assume that you need to put in your email that you want the exact car described and that you want to order it and have a FIRM offer (you'll need to go into the dealership to sign for that). If they find exactly what you want that's OK, but that's all you'll accept. If they have to trade with a dealer and have additional charges for delivery let them know you'll simply wait for the one you ordered.
I will have to say I'm glad my car deals have been fairly easy. If I had to put up with the #$$ that many of the posters have gone through just attempting to purchase a Toyota I would never have bought one (I've bought 8).
My dealings with Ford, GM, Nissan, Audi, BMW and Infiniti have ALL been painless.
#4644 of 10203 Re: Looking at Camry Hybrid in ATL [georgia411]
Dec 28, 2006 (5:50 am)
Interesting! Now that you have had the car for a few weeks, do you have anything to say about it? We were also going through the Lexus IS 250 vs. Camry Hybrid comparison.
For some reason, I'm not seeing a lot of price discussions on this particular car. Does anybody else want to share a price paid? Not surprisingly, since we're comparing it to the Lexus, we're looking at the Hybrid with the leather, nav, etc.
What can I expect on this car? Is it going for close to MSRP? Edmunds seems to suggest (TMV thingie) that it goes for over MSRP. Are there deals to be had? What is a reasonable expectation?
#4645 of 10203 Re: Camry LE Base Model [ldcruze]
Dec 28, 2006 (6:36 am)
If you can get it at invoice price you are doing pretty well IMHO. The dealer here is selling me the RAV 4 that I'm buying right at invoice price, and is throwing in a $100 gas card. He says he isn't making any money, but there has to be something there or it wouldn't make sense for him to sell to me at that price. My 2007 RAV-4 has an MSRP of $23,614, and we bought it for $21,964. There seems to be about 8% between MSRP and Invoice, at least on the models we looked at. This dealer actually showed me the invoice.
#4646 of 10203 Re: Looking at Camry Hybrid in ATL [ohwhatafeeling]
Dec 28, 2006 (1:32 pm)
I just went through this in Boston. Bought a TCH with leather, nav, sunroof, heated seats, and the mat package. Sticker is $31,007 and paid $29,950, or about 1000 under sticker. They also gave me a few hundred off the extended warranty, which I think is very common. Toyota's price for that is less than AAA, for whatever that is worth. Take deliver in February. Good luck.
#4647 of 10203 Transaction prices on 2007 Camry XLE
Dec 28, 2006 (5:09 pm)
Looking for examples of price (excluding destination, tax, title, license, advertising) paid in down state Illinois for a 2007 4 cylinder XLE with leather (LA) and heated seats (HD)? I have been unable to get a response through internet pricing. Thanks!
#4648 of 10203 Re: Camry LE Pricing [wvgasguy]
Dec 28, 2006 (5:25 pm)
Thanks for clarifying your point to my last post. It is well taken. I have received responses and surprisingly the lowest quote that I have received has been from a small dealership about 100 miles from my home.
I do acknowlege that when I purchased my last Camry I was ignorant in car purchasing and am determined not to repeat the same mistakes again, thus my compassion to find the best deal for my money.
Do you happen to know what these fees are?
TDA .........................................: $ 359.00
Dealer Holdback .............................: $ 415.00
Whsl. Financial Reserve .....................: $ 207.0
Thanks for your insight,
#4649 of 10203 Re: Internet Intricacies (translation: Ugh) [catalina101]
Dec 28, 2006 (5:26 pm)
Dealers will understandably will not give you an OTD price because they know you will shop around their price.
I do not understand why some people are affraid to actualy go to the dealer... you are making a major purchase and the purchase ca not be made upon the internet because at some point you will have to go to the dealer (most of the time).
The dealer is correct the price can change and they certainly wll not order a car based upon e-mail contact.
If you continue to shop via e-mail these are the type of responses you will get so and you will have a tough time purchasing a car.
#4650 of 10203 Re: Internet Intricacies (translation: Ugh) 
Dec 28, 2006 (5:30 pm)
Smart Key and Remote Start both Toyota installed? did not think that Toyota did both at the same time.
If you paid $28,250 ($1733 ovr invoice) OTD you made an OK deal.... if $28.850 before taxes you should shop around.
This is not a "loaded" car... did they tell you this?
#4651 of 10203 Re: Internet Intricacies (translation: Ugh) [catalina101]
Dec 28, 2006 (7:40 pm)
Something I noticed in your post -- you might be mixing up "base" price and invoice price. The base price is the MSRP with no options. This might explain the discrepancy between your figures and the salesman's.