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Volkswagen New Beetle, Exterior, Auto Body, Paint, Convertible
#384 of 436 Re: bug window falling out [bugdude]
Aug 14, 2008 (4:12 pm)
have you had any experience re-installing the rear flap assembly (driver's side)? dropped the top last night, heard a crunch, before I knew it, the plastic backing w/ all the moving parts was toast ($110) along with the plastic ball end joints on the actuator rod that connect the flap to the motor (of course, you can't buy just the ball joints, had to replace the entire rod assy $50); if you have, is there an adjustment on this tiny "tie rod" I need to worry about? oh yeah, my rear window is falling out as well.....
#385 of 436 rear flap assemby-04beetleconv
Aug 20, 2008 (10:31 am)
I had both rear flap assemblies do exactly what yours did last year. I have an '03. Mine were going to cost $650 each to replace and of course the warranty had expired two months previous. I got in touch with VW and made the argument that these parts should have been better made and after much back & forth they replaced both flaps at N/C. About two months ago the rear passenger window stopped working and had to be replaced ($450). Now two weeks ago the top stopped going down all the way. The dealership charged me $55 to tell me that it needs further investigation and that either the left or the right motors that takes the top up and down need to be replaced. Maybe $700 plus. I'm sure both sides will need to be replaced as it's been my experience that left & right on everything needs to be replaced. I've been very disappointed in the so-called German engineering of this car. But my back window is still in place.
#386 of 436 Re: rear flap assemby-04beetleconv [tobysmom]
Aug 24, 2008 (4:57 am)
Thanks for the reply. It ended up not being a major ordeal; The hardest part was removing the body component from the flap assembly, but the flap assembly is held in place w/ 2 - 4mm head hex head set screws; the sliding cover (slightly forward of this flap assembly) had to be manually held back to access one of the screws, but, once the existing broken assembly was removed, the new assy slid right in and bolted up; I popped the body part back onto the flap assembly, installed the cam rod assembly, and it works like a champ. Still not happy about it breaking to begin with, but the wife really likes the car.......still need to address the rear window trim popping out...
#387 of 436 Re: bug window falling out [bugdude]
Sep 24, 2008 (5:45 pm)
It's nice to know that I don't have the only 2004 lemon. Everyone in my dealership knows who I am by name. Just discovered the window falling out the top. I am being told by a top shop that it has to be replaced because the pocket isn't deep enough to reglue and the shrinkage makes it impossible. Of course it is out of warranty. This just 'tops' the list of issues with this car. Every time something breaks I have to bring it back 3 to 4 times before they get it right. I have been through 3 head lights including wiring harness (but get told I don't have electrical problems even though the wiring harness' are burnt out), 3 batteries, 3 driver side door window regulators, the rods and clips in the top have broken multiple times (including the first week I had it). Then the icing on the cake, the last recall for the air bag sensors, I have to put in a claim to be paid back, because I already had to replace those. I love the idea of my bug and I do love to drive it, but I will not by another VW, I was just saying today, if this is German Engineering, they can keep it. I would rather have my 1981 Chevette back!
#388 of 436 Replacing the top
Sep 25, 2008 (8:46 am)
The VW dealership in Jackson, MS told me it would cost $4,000 to replace the top and $8,000 if the mechanism also had to be replaced. As it turned out, both had to be replaced, being just out of warranty, so I found a local person recommended to me by a VW buff who restores bugs. He replaced the top at his home garage and the mechanism for under $2,000. I would recommend to anyone facing this problem to find a local person who specializes in VWs or maybe foreign cars to recommend someone to replace the top.
I just got rid of a 2002 VW Turbo Diesel which I can honestly say was a true lemon and should have been turned in as such. I took a beating on it financially and would have paid someone to take it off my hands. I won't be buying anymore VW products; I won't even buy a German made product. I have owned numerous VWs and an Audi and I will never own another.
Oct 20, 2008 (7:09 pm)
I have had my beetle convertible since spring of 2004 and have not had too many problems (knock on Wood) I have enjoyed the car and have only recently began to experience some problems now that is out of warranty. I had to pay 600 to fix a problem with the cylinders and the turbo charge unit. I had to fix another problem with the dive train that, thankfully , was still under warranty.
I put my top down last weekend and heard the loud "crack" and got out to see that the plastic cover plate on the driver side did not "get out of the way" and it cracked it completely off!
Thanks to all of you I preemptively called VW to tell them that they need to pay for what I would consider a design flaw or a "design failure"
They did not make any promises...but I will push it.
Do any of you know if there have been enough problems with this or other top/window issues to prompt a class action suit???
I would be interested to know.
#390 of 436 Re: First top problem [marconiusrex24]
Oct 23, 2008 (4:19 pm)
UPDATE! I took my car into the dealership today just to have them take a look at it and...LOW AND BEHOLD...THEY SAY I NEED TO PAY $8,000 FOR A NEW TOP! (Aside from the $265 for the cover plate replacement) I tried to get the guy to explain to me why on earth it would need a new frame. I just don't get it. I am going to push VW to pay for this as I consider it a catastrophic failure of one of the most important design features on the car 4 months out of warranty. I am wishing I had bought the extended warranty now.
Wish me luck!
Oct 23, 2008 (4:23 pm)
My back window is not falling out...(yet..knock on wood) but the dealer today said they have a repair kit for this now...rather than having to replace the top. Not sure what the cost is though.
#392 of 436 Re: Replacing the top [smcclarty]
Oct 23, 2008 (4:30 pm)
I had the same problem with my '04 conv. I opened the top last weekend and heard a loud crack. The cover plate cracked completely off. Then I noticed the the fabric of the top had pulled back from the body a little bit. The dealership is saying the whole frame has to be replaced at with an $8,000 price tag!!!!! I am pushing VW to pay for what I consider a major design defect.
Wish me luck. If they don't I may be looking for someone else to replace it for less cost like you did. Are you happy with this less expensive top?
#393 of 436 Re: rear flap assemby-04beetleconv [tobysmom]
Jun 24, 2009 (12:42 pm)
I have an 04 Beetle convertible with 19K miles and the right rear flap assembly also broke off. Who or where did you call to convince VW to pay for the repair?