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Re: My reason for never driving another Aviator... [jeyhoe] by atvmudrat
Jan 22, 2008 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: jeyhoe (Jan 02, 2008 1:46 pm)

Thanks for your friendly response Well....the dealer ended up not replacing the coil packs. They said the computer was showing something else. It's strange though because the computer told our local mechanic is was the coil packs a few days before.
 
For some reason, my brakes are working better now My husband gave the service manager a list of all the problems we had with this vehicle and now the brakes aren't "bumpy" when we apply them. Maybe they did an adjustment they didn't charge us for? In the past when we had brakes put on the Aviator, they vibrated right away. This has been a constant thing since we left the lot with the car. It feels like I have dinky little brakes that would be better suited stopping an itty bitty car instead of an SUV. I just hope they keep on stopping me
 
The "door ajar" warning light isn't coming on now either. Maybe they cleaned the sensor thingy.
 
I stated the wrong total of brake jobs my car had in the original post. My husband said we are about to need our 4th. Boo Hoo.
 
You are right about the Honda I owned needing brakes. I can't remember how many times I replaced them but it seems like it was 3 or 4. Plus, it had to have tires but not too often. I don't really understand why some cars/trucks need brakes more often than others....my husband drives a 2001 Chevrolet Silverado 4-Wheel Drive HD with an extra cab. He has 92,000 miles and is still on his original factory brakes. I wish those kind of brakes had been on my Aviator
 
I guess my main thought is...shouldn't a car that costs $50,000 have less mechanical problems than one that costs $20,000 I guess the familiar phrase "You get what you pay for" doesn't apply to the Aviator.
 
Best wishes to you with the Navigator. That's a *NICE* car!
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Re: My reason for never driving another Aviator... [atvmudrat] by jeyhoe
Jan 22, 2008 (1:43 pm)
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Replying to: atvmudrat (Jan 22, 2008 6:52 am)

Hi again.
 
Yeah, thanks the Nav is a real nice ride.
 
Glad to hear things are working out a little bit better now. I would be surprised if the dealer actually did anything and didn't tell you or charge you or both. But who knows? One thing I've pretty much learned is the dealer and their service dept make a HUGE difference in the happiness of the owner - whether the car is a gem or a lem(on). Eg: My Nav on delivery had a driver door inside latch that was sticking out quite a bit and it was so close to actually opeining the door with just a slight touch that it was dangerous. I took it to the dealer where I had just bought the thing for over 50 $Large. The GD tech gets a micrometer and measures how far the handle sticks out and says "within spec. Next?" I flipped but they wouldn't do anything else. Took it to another dealer 30 miles away. They spent 10 minutes taking the door panel off and found that a screw under the handle had not been properly installed at the factory. They fixed it, handle lies perfect now and I personally told off the service dept mgr and owner of the dealer where I bought the thing and havent been back since.
 
Anyway, 4 brake jobs is way too many at 92000 miles on just about any vehicle. Unfortunately, I'm not that surprised. My Nav needed front brakes and rotors once already (though most of the cost was warrantee) and I just had the rear brakes done last month, at 45,000. These ARE BIG heavy vehicles, but brakes do come in BIG sizes so you'd think Ford would put the appropriate ones in, but NOOOOOO. IMHO, they do this on most of their vehicles and like I said, it shows in performance numbers and in owners maintenance logs. And it's not just the SUVs as a good friend had a Taurus wagon whose brakes would need replacing oftener than 20,000miles. Pathetic. The new Lincoln MKX and Ford Edge are good examples - vehicles that mean the world to the comapny and magazine tests show they need 10 to 30 feet further to stop than equivalent competitors. Is THIS one of Ford's better ideas?
 
As to your last question, I can pretty much say the answer is NO. All else equal, the $50,000 vehicle is going to have bells and whistles and electronics etc etc that will fail more often than a smaller, cheaper car. Engine, tranny and brakes have to work that much harder too. So it's not surprising at all that an Aviator would cost a lot more to maintain than an Accord. I have little doubt that a Honda Pilot would cost more in maint than the Acoord as well. THough maybe less than the Aviator.
 
So are u up for new wheels? THere's so much to like out there right now.
 
Best to you.
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ECU Ghost by somersny
Feb 01, 2008 (1:01 pm)
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Greetings - new to the board. Have a 2004 Aviator I bought off lease a few months ago. Just back from the dealer today to find out why the vehicle is behaving badly. When driving, let's say 60mph, and you lift off the throttle, the ECU holds the engine rpm up around 2,000 so the truck tends never to slow down. If you put the selector in neutral you can watch the rpm's hold around 2,000 till the vehicle runs out of momentum and slows. Only as the vehicle slows (in neutral) does the rpm's come down back to idle. Calls to Dearborn engineering resulted in "it's designed that way"...
 
Anybody else having this problem/situation? Really pissing me off - I put the truck in neutral or turn off the ignition when going down a hill or preparing to stop just to stop that engine from pulling it...
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Sad about drop in value of my Aviator by themishelle
Jul 16, 2008 (1:52 pm)
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It would be silly of us to sell our Aviator, I do love it, but my gosh has the value of it dropped. I have the 2005 & with the high gas prices I guess it's worth more to me to keep it than to trade it in or sell. What a bummer.
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Re: Sad about drop in value of my Aviator [themishelle] by jeyhoe
Jul 16, 2008 (3:53 pm)
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Replying to: themishelle (Jul 16, 2008 1:52 pm)

I'm in the same boat with my Navigator. I have resigned myself to the fact that it's a real nice ride. Selling at a big loss and buying something that gets better mpg is just too expensive and would take a decade to pay off. I'm just kicking back and enjoying it and swearing at the politicians who've done this to us each time I visit a gas station.
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Re: Sad about drop in value of my Aviator [themishelle] by explorerx4
Jul 23, 2008 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: themishelle (Jul 16, 2008 1:52 pm)

i spent lots of time trying to figure out how i could afford an aviator. i have an '02 explorer it runs great and i let my kids drive it now. my problem is i want my damn lincoln. i bought a fusion 4 months ago, but the aviator prices are making me think about swapping out the fusion.
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Re: Sad about drop in value of my Aviator [explorerx4] by jeyhoe
Jul 23, 2008 (6:59 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jul 23, 2008 6:52 pm)

The Aviator is a beautiful vehicle. But it was not without problems, to put it mildly. The Navigator is actually a more reliable vehicle. And bigger. And rides probably better and handles darn near as well. Just be careful out there. Course at today's prices and with an extended warrantee, an Aviator might be a steal. Isn't there an old adage that says "When everyone else is selling, it might be a good time to buy." Or something like that.
 
Gas predicted to be $1.00/gallon lower by Labor day makes it even more attractive.
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Re: Sad about drop in value of my Aviator [explorerx4] by waygrabow
Jul 27, 2008 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jul 23, 2008 6:52 pm)

Ford is offering great incentives on new SUVs right now. The trade in on your Aviator may suck, but, if you can negotiate an excellent price on a new vehicle, you could still come out alright. We had a '99 Explorer, which we were very satisfied with (108.5K trouble-free miles); bought a new '08 Explorer ($6000 below invoice), and are amazed at how much better the new Explorer drives. As soon as my wife drove it she said, " We can sell my Audi; this is what I want to drive." A fully loaded Expedition would probably be about the same as a Lincoln but at a better price.
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Lincoln Aviator rough idle. by vinnyvee
Feb 15, 2009 (7:22 pm)
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Hi I have a 2003 lincoln aviator and i love everything about it. I do have a problem tho when the truck is cold it idles smooth and nice. When the engine temp comes up approx after 10 min it gets rough. It looks to be idleing a little low . Any one who can help me it would be great.
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Re: Lincoln Aviator rough idle. [vinnyvee] by akirby
Feb 16, 2009 (5:43 am)
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Replying to: vinnyvee (Feb 15, 2009 7:22 pm)

Have the compression checked - could be in need of a head replacement. It's a known problem but won't be covered under warranty.

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