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Lincoln Aviator, SUV
Oct 18, 2004 (8:02 pm)
I see that you might live in NJ going by your Login name. Try and check out Wayne Lincoln Mercury. They usually have a large selection. That is where I got my 2003 leftover Aviator last year around the beginning of September. They had a few leftovers there to choose from at the time. However, you might be too late though because at the time I bought mine, the leftovers they had were going into Fleet service. (I actually saw the secretary putting them in the computer by vin number). So you can say I rescued mine from a horrible rental life!
Oct 19, 2004 (4:03 pm)
I'm sure it thanks you every night too!
#1589 of 1950 Not the same experience . . .
Oct 19, 2004 (5:30 pm)
I've had an absolutely WONDERFUL ownership experience with my 2000 Lincoln LS, but the 2004 Lincoln Aviator is a completely different. The dealership is doing everything right, and they're taking good care of my wife and I, but the Aviator just isn't up to snuff in my book.
I've got an Ultimate AWD model with ABSOLUTELY every available option. We've logged 15K miles on the Aviator since February '04, and several things have gone awry, the most recent being a coolant system dump while my wife was driving her clients to lunch.
My wife, in her words, "heard a loud snap" while entering an eating establishments parking lot. She definitely watched the gages and noticed nothing wrong before leaving the vehicle with her passengers to go eat. When she got back to the Aviator after eating, there was a large green puddle underneath it. Knowing it was coolant, she called a cab for her passengers and then our LM dealership (who then gave her the number for Lincoln roadside service). 45 minutes later she was towed to our dealer.
We've already endured a replacement for a mis-assembled Transfer Case module (shipped with a Ford Explorer module rather than the proper Aviator module), a defective transmission solenoid pack (replaced 2 months ago), and a Navigation System that couldn't (replaced every single component until it finally works).
The dealer has happily repaired everything thus far, giving us a loaner vehicles that include Mercury Sable, Toyota Camry, Lincoln Towncar, and now a new Ford Escape.
I'm really annoyed that the Aviator has been in the shop as much as it has since we acquired it new on Super Bowl Sunday earlier this year. Not enough for Lemon laws (nor would I call our Aviator a Lemon), but enough that I've really lost a lot of faith in F/L/M quality. This is NOTHING like my LS experience (which is just the opposite), but it's disturbing.
We just got back to Phoenix from a week's vacation in the LA area, and the Aviator (and Nav System) worked GREAT! The air conditioned seats are very comfortable, mileage isn't too bad at 16 HWY and 14 City, and the ride/handling is wonderful. My 5-year old daughter loved the entertainment system on the 5-hour drive, so everyone is happy when it works, but it just doesn't work long enough between service visits.
The AWD system works great too, as I've been to Point Sublime and Toroweap on the Grand Canyon's North Rim earlier this summer (both locations are remote and the trails to them are rugged), and the Aviator acquitted itself quite well.
The only other positive spin I can put on the Reliability front is, "at least it quits on us while we're in-town and easily serviced."
#1590 of 1950 Re: Not the same experience . . . [lolaj42]
Oct 20, 2004 (8:53 am)
I have to agree with you on the LS reliability. While I've had the rear window failures, nothing else has gone wrong and I enjoy every minute in my LS. 67K & going strong.
I helped convince my sister that the Aviator was a good buy. They have had their 04 (bought used) for under a year and no problems as of yet. She loves it!
In a related/unrelated incident to your antifreeze leak... a co-worker said that he was driving his '04 Pontiac GTO through a construction zone and heard a crack/pop in the engine compartment and saw a plume of white vapor behind him. The low coolant light came on. Seems a plastic tube that runs between the aluminum radiator and the rubber hose (don't know if it was upper or lower) failed and broke open.
Do you know what happened to your Aviator's system?
#1591 of 1950 Seized Compressor
Oct 24, 2004 (5:45 pm)
after less than 9 months of service.
Quoting from the Service Invoice . . . "Removed A/C compressor and found metal pieces in system. Removed receiver/drier and both front and rear thermoexpansion valves. Flushed condensor, front evaporator, rear evaporator and lines. Replaced receiver/direr and front thermoexpansion valve. Cleaned and reinstalled rear thermoexpansion valve. Replaced compressor and checked system for leaks. . . "
I trust the service was done properly and thoroughly, but the overall quality of the Aviator hasn't impressed me nearly to the degree my 2000 Lincoln LS has, which is the best vehicle I've ever owned after 5 years of service.
Nov 15, 2004 (5:44 am)
Anybody know where I can get rubber floor mats for my Aviator?
Nov 16, 2004 (6:49 am)
Tire Rack has a special on Aviator OEM tires right now. $114 for Michelin Pilot LTX 245/65-17 105H which matched the specs on my OEM tires (double check yours to be sure). Heck of a deal. Had to replace the spare - picked up a nail too close to the sidewall.
Nov 16, 2004 (5:44 pm)
I got rid of my OEM Michelin LTX tires after less than 5K miles. I shredded one (right rear) after less than three miles of driving on a dirt road. I lost complete faith in those tires as a result.
I now drive on Yokohama Geolander A/T+II. They have a higher speed rating than my OEM Michelin LTX's for extended exhuberant highway cruising, plus they have a much better off-road capabilities. At $111 per tire, they're still cheaper than the Michelin's. The only downside is that they're a bit noisier.
I just turn up the sound system a notch louder.
By the way, the Geolander's have done some pretty strenuous off-roading . . . no comparison at all with the Michelin's.
Nov 16, 2004 (6:08 pm)
The Michelins aren't exactly off-road or all terrain tires you know. So far mine have been extremely quiet, smooth and the treadwear is almost non-existent after 17K miles.
A friend put the Geolanders on his Yukon and he likes them. And the price is right.