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Lincoln Aviator, SUV
Aug 21, 2004 (3:03 pm)
Just to pass something along, don't know what really caused the problem. We just returned home after a 6 week absence. Tried to start the Aviator -- it was dead! Called Lincoln road service, sent a truck, couldn't get it started with a booster. The shop replaced the battery, said it had "gone bad" (2000 miles), and shouldn't happen again. However, I'm wondering, if it wouldn't be better to put a trickle charger on it the next time we're gone? A friend of mine has a 2003 BMW 745i and the dealer told him, that if it is idle for more than a couple of weeks, the systems that continue running will run down the battery and the vehicle will need to be towed and all computers reset. I know that the BMW is unique, what with that ridiculous i-drive, etc., but I'm wondering if a similar situation doesn't exist on the Aviator??? Any comments?
Aug 21, 2004 (6:03 pm)
""Transmission origin -- France???""
Many components are manufactured in other countries. Ironically years ago when the whole "Anti-France" trend started (pertaining to the war) I dealt with "Fat Cat, know it all"at a dinner reception which was harping of how he was boycotting French products. I let it slide for awhile, so he would bake on his own juices.
I eloquently pointed out his Explorer had a French transmission... Well that didn't go to well, and to top it off (he was Jewish and also boycotted German made vehicles) told him his engine was built in Cologne Germany. This knowing full well he didn't have the means to replace it soon. He almost had a canniption, I thought he would have a stroke on that news...Well more the part where I was patronizing him and saying "OH how could you have not known, here you are preaching, ahh, the nerve I tell ya, you weren't loyal enough, geesh!"
In this global economy, there's certain components that while designed by an American company, it's inexpensive building them elsewhere. I mean, yes eventually the money will go back to the American company headquartered in the U.S., but that's up to the choice of the consumer.
"but I'm wondering if a similar situation doesn't exist on the Aviator??? Any comments? "
No, this situation isn't an Aviator... It's electronics are much more simplified. You can actually have a bad battery... I've had 2 car batteries gone bad which I had purchased from a local automotive store.... Times where I've run out of warranty and rather take care of it at the corner, than at the dealership.
About the 7-Series, what they stated was correct, and not the first time I have heard of the situation you had stated. Happens quite a bit with MB as well.
Aug 22, 2004 (5:55 am)
A trickle charger is a good idea if you're leaving it for more than a couple of weeks. Even without all the fancy electronics it can drain a battery.
The tranny may have French parts but it is assembled in the US.
Aug 22, 2004 (7:36 am)
U sure about that akirby? Not that I care a lot, it's a good transmission, though I'm not a fan of French cars (Yikes!!!)
I thought the Aviator had a device that turned off stuff after a couple of days, to save battery power so this wouldn't happen, so yes, I would think your battery may have been defective. I too have had two brand new cars with defective batteries in them. It happens.
#1552 of 1950 Re: [nvbanker]
Aug 22, 2004 (5:32 pm)
I'm 95% sure about the tranny being assembled in the U.S. The sticker thing is about the origin of the parts, not where it's built.
The battery saver feature you're talking about is for things that were left on - headlamps, interior lights, etc. What we're talking about here is the juice the computer uses while the car is off and that can't be shut off.
And yes - I'm sure the battery was bad - wasn't implying that it wasn't. But even a good battery can be drained with today's modern car electronics.
Aug 22, 2004 (5:39 pm)
Hmmmm, I figured the 5 speed auto was built in France, shipped here, and then assembled into the car, like the Cologne engine from Germany. Well, whatever, it's a nice smooth unit.
Aug 22, 2004 (5:43 pm)
Couldn't find anything specifically on the explorer/aviator tranny but the 5R55S which is essentially the same tranny is also used in the LS and Tbird and it is assembled in Sharonville, OH and yes, the content sticker still says France.
Aug 22, 2004 (5:49 pm)
Spoke too soon. I found a previous post on another site from a Ford engineer who said the car versions of the 5R55 were assembled in Sharonville but the truck versions were assembled in Bordeaux although it was designed in Livonia, MI.
I'm guessing it's a capacity issue given how many explorers and mountaineers they sell. They sure aren't having capacity issues with LS and Tbird sales figures.
Aug 23, 2004 (7:37 am)
Well, there you have it!!
#1557 of 1950 Batteries
Aug 24, 2004 (8:56 am)
I have "parked" my '00 LS for 3 months during the cold NW PA winters for the past 4 years. The car was outside (just a car cover for protection.) It basically sits for that period with the battery connected and no incoming charge. It has never gone dead and always started right away. This past winter, I think I only started the car 2 or 3 times the whole time it sat.
quemfala - Sounds like your battery was just plain bad from the beginning.