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#1101 of 1950 Aviator Sales Help Lincoln Increase Sales
Dec 19, 2003 (12:36 pm)
This considering that some journalists stated the vehicle was a sales flop...HA....
"This week, Lincolnís total sales for 2003 exceeded those for all of 2002, said Lincoln-Mercury general sales manager Al Giombetti. Business has been driven by the brandís two SUVs, the full-size Navigator and mid-size Aviator, sales of which have nearly doubled this year. "
"Navigator volume through November was up 23 percent from a year ago with 33,753 sales. Dealers sold 26,598 Aviators for the same period. The Aviator was introduced late last year.
Giombetti said the luxury SUVs have helped attract customers who in the past have driven import brands, ďand weíve been able to capitalize on it.Ē
#1102 of 1950 Nifty Floor Mats by gunfghtr13
Dec 19, 2003 (12:38 pm)
As I have said before, I am also trying to get these puppies for my Avi. It is real unfortunate that they have been telling me the same story (another month)since August 2003. I wish they could just say the truth. It would be great to get a hold of someone with real authority and get them on it so that we could get these mats in place before winter is over with. I will probably wait since these mats are ideal for me especially with 2 kids. They feally are worth the money. My brother in law just got a set for his Navigator and he loves them. I need to have them!
#1103 of 1950 AdvanceTrac available?
Dec 20, 2003 (9:28 pm)
I am thinking about buying an Aviator. It was not clear to me whether the Ultimate 4WD version comes with AdvanceTrac as a standard option or not. The website and brochure mentioned late availability but I am not sure they are referring to the Roll Stability Control or the AdvanceTrac. Does anybody know?
I like to have it because without it, the truck won't be able to climb my driveway if on side of the road has ice. It seems that the regular 4wd only shifts power between front and back. You need AdvanceTrac to shift between left and right. Is that right?
#1104 of 1950 Roar when cold!!!
Dec 21, 2003 (7:53 am)
Has anyone experienced the substantial ROAR that the engine lets out when starting and the engine is cold. How long the roar continues upon acceleration after starting seems to vary, but the very noticeable roar from the engine is very annoying. Lately, it seems to last for at least 15 to 20 minutes after initial cold startup. After the noise settles down, it doesn't return for the day typically.
#1105 of 1950 advance trac
Dec 21, 2003 (8:44 am)
ypshan - you misunderstand how this works. Traction control - which may or may not be part of the advance trac system on the Aviator - is what will direct power from a wheel that loses traction to the other wheel that has traction. If Advance trac comes with traction control then that will help your situation. So will a limited slip differential.
Advance trac will only help if the vehicle starts to understeer or oversteer - it will cut engine power and/or apply brakes to one wheel before control is lost. It won't help you getting up your driveway. In fact, AWD with limited slip differential(s) will probably work the best - even better than electronic traction control.
#1106 of 1950 Thanks for the clarification
Dec 21, 2003 (12:52 pm)
I understand the AdvanceTrac stuff now. My X5 has a similar system and it saved me a couple of times when the truck was not going toward where I pointed the steering wheel to. It's a useful feature in our area.
How do I make sure I get it? It is nowhere to be found when you build your own Aviator on Lincoln's website. It is not on any of the window stickers I have seen at dealerships' lots. Lately the website allows an option called Roll Stability Control which pre-req's AdvanceTrac. That got me thinking that AdvanceTrac may be built into the base model. However, the brochure says it's optional. I am confused and the sales persons at the dealership don't have a clue.
Anybody knows? Thanks.
#1107 of 1950 Engine Roar
Dec 21, 2003 (4:29 pm)
The engine roar is quite loud, and quite annoying, especially since it seems to last for several minutes, especially on a cold day. I understand that a large, V8 engine would be louder than other vehicles with smaller engines, but the roar from the aviator is not what one would expect from a luxury vehicle. Its just too loud.
Acceleration while the engine is cold is also very poor, unless you really floor it, and I can just imagine what that means for gas mileage!
Dec 21, 2003 (7:33 pm)
It's your fan clutch, but this has been a problem on Ford's SUVs for 10 years, dating back to the Explorers. I assume it's a bad part, but they keep making them that way. So I don't know. Might be a TSB out on it. I just usually ignore it, although I haven't noticed it since my 87.
Dec 23, 2003 (5:58 am)
The roar is normal, so long as it quickly goes away as the engine warms up. Nvbanker is correct. It's the belt driven engine fan which is controlled by the fan clutch. The clutch is thermostatically controlled. It's fully engaged upon a cold engine start. You might hear the same noise on an very hot day when more cooling is needed...perhaps when stuck in traffic for an extended period or when the engine has been under a heavy load such as climbing a long steep hill or towing a trailer. The noise is not unique to the Aviator, my wife's Explorer does the same thing, and I had three Grand Cherokees V8's...they made the same noise, too. A fan clutch is used so that your engine does not have to run the fan all that time, which would needlessly take power from the engine and waste fuel. (and create more of the unneccesary noise that you object to). I'm really not certain why the fan clutch starts in the fully engaged position. Perhaps in case it breaks it would be preferable to have fan working than not?...I'm just guessing. Anyone know the answer to that?
Dec 23, 2003 (6:52 am)
The solution to resolve this issue is simple, turn on the radio. Just wondering how many are out there that actually have the radio and A/C turned off to actually hear these noises.