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#296 of 379 expeditions & navigators being held up at ford
Sep 19, 2005 (8:08 am)
My 2006 exp. was due to be delivered today the 19th. When I went to the dealer to find out when it would be here, he called Ford and was told that it was built but was being held up with 40,000 other expeditons and navigators. He was not told why or for how long. I haven't seen anything about this anywhere and neither has he, but he suspected a safety problem. If anyone hears anything, please post it here.
#297 of 379 Re: expeditions & navigators being held up at ford [dominoetx]
Sep 19, 2005 (7:23 pm)
That would be bad news for you dude. You're going to have to keep a close eye on your new ride. The most common reason they do stuff like that is to catch a defective batch of parts that made it into production vehicles. Sometimes they catch all the bad parts and sometimes not. Good luck.
#298 of 379 Re: expeditions & navigators being held up at ford [tourguide]
Sep 20, 2005 (8:26 am)
The dealer called me back to say it was not limited to expeditions and navigators. The problem is the starter, which is furnished to ford by a vendor. The vendor is examining the problem. The $3000 rebate expires on 10/3 but people at ford that my dealer talked to think it will be extended or even increased. Of course, there is no guarantee. I can back out, let him locate, or wait. I'm inclined to wait for now as this one has the options I want.
Nov 03, 2005 (6:16 pm)
okay guys, i have 1997 Expedition right. i got it for my birthday and just hate the color (dark red) i asked for a paint job for christmas, and I'm pretty sure i'll get it. i just dont know what color i should go with. I have Hot pink and Teal under lighting. But i want to get a aint job to match it before i pick one and put it on. what do ya'll suggest?
#300 of 379 Any dealing from the Simple Plan Price
Dec 07, 2005 (6:12 pm)
Does anyone have any experience with the new Simple Plan Price? Is it possible to negotiate any lower than this SPP after cash back rebates or that the final firm price? I am interested in a 2006 EB 4 x 4 Expedition ($34,557).
#301 of 379 Pls. help !!!!!
Dec 26, 2005 (9:23 pm)
Does any one give me advice here. I'm planning to buy a 2006 4 x 4 XLT Expedition($39,700). How much will I expect for all the Rebates/Dealer cash back/Incentives? I live here in Cranston,Rhode Island. I have a trade-in with a negative equity and planning to roll it? What will be the best offer that I can give to the dealer?
#302 of 379 Re: Any dealing from the Simple Plan Price [shasta2]
Jan 06, 2006 (9:12 am)
Back in late November I was offered an extra $1,000 owner loyalty rebate and $500 Shopping Spree (in lieu of $1,000 Shopping Spree credit card allowance) off the so-called Simple Plan Price on a new 2006 Expedition. The Shopping Spree ended here November 27th, but there is usually something similar that the dealer will dig up if you start to walk away.
Big decision to go for a new 2005 Expedition right now--need to get a great deal and know the 2005 will be driven a lot to get long term value. Extreme soft market for 2003-2006 used Expeditons makes it very difficult to trade back in at retail on 2005 and 2006 models. Even with rebates, you could find yourself $10,000 to $12,000 or more "upside down" after 100 miles. Lots of 2005 and 2006 new Expedition inventory all around--some new 2005 up to 18 months and getting to be very non-current. Tried out the above new 2006 that had been on the lot for over 6 months already. Noticed the battery was stone dead and there was only 3 tryout miles on the odometer.
(Hey Mr Ford, get some weight out instead of making the suv models heavier each time, e.g., the 2006 Explorer, 2003 and up Expedition)
But, if you know you are going to drive a lot, have good income, maybe have a growing family, a drop dead deal on a new 2005 is worth looking at. Despite high vehicle weight and size, most new Expeditions get somewhat decent mileage and have the potential to last to very high miles when properly driven and maintained. And, the 2wd high setting on late model Expedition 4wd is a huge advantage for Expedition versus a Explorer 4wd without 2wd high setting. For example my 2004 Expedition 4wd NBX gets better hwy mileage than my wife's 2003 V-8 Explorer 4wd (no 2wd high setting to choose), 3.73 towing ratio.
Finally, one local dealer mentioned that "Ford is getting back into leases" or something along that line. Ford had problems with market values of Expedition/Explorer coming off lease a few years ago and had to pull back the attractive offers. Dealers then could buy same or nearly identical vehicle at the sales for a few thousand dollars less than FMC payoff. Apparently from the above comment, a lease on the new 2006 Explorer is much more attractive than a similar lease last year.
..hope this helps..
#303 of 379 Ford get it straight
Jan 10, 2006 (8:32 pm)
Coming close to trying buy an Expy but the dealers are driving me crazy.
The paradox is that the MSRP of the 2005 on the EB is almost exactly $1,000 higher than the 2006 so that automatically washes out the 5k versus 4k rebate on the 05 vs 06.
Then Ford is offering a 1000 discount on the 06 with the DVD and power 3rd row (what we want). That leaves the 05 further in the hole not counting the near 15k depreciation of driving it off the lot. The Ford dealers I have spoken with on this have their head in the sand or they are finding some suckers to take the 05's off the lot. They won't offer much less than some other's are for the 06's. I would have pulled the trigger for a great deal on the 05 because it is nearly the same vehicle and I drive my cars for 5-6 years minimum.
Not to mention the bold face lie told to me by my small town dealer about the Ford Simple Plan and rebates that just ended. Just price the dang car for what it's worth. Ford and GM are circling the drain and the dealers aren't helping them. Anyone notice how dead this expy forum has become?
#304 of 379 Re: Ford get it straight [newdoc2002]
Jan 11, 2006 (1:06 pm)
Overall very good analysis.
But, I will add that the $1,000 "discount" on the 06 DVD is not really a discount at all because the discount is not reflected in the vehicle's invoice. The standard mark-up or cost factor for Expedition for many years has been from 88.5% to 88.7%, but some of the above discounted units have cost factors of 89.5 to 90.5%. Thus no real discount.
Also have noticed that some of the true price cuts for 06 Expedition are only on units built way early, say May and June of 2005. Later inventory have price cuts from 05 in their MSRPs, but not the invoice prices. Similar to the above.
One Ford dealer commented that Ford got its money when they ordered the Expeditions months ago--was hoping to dealer transfer all his stock.
Surprisingly, only one dealer has been aggressive in trying to move his new 2005 Expedition. Called me three or four times at work and home. The others like you said have their heads in the sand or dreamland and don't want to admit to what high gas prices have done to market conditions. So there sits non-current new Expedition inventory looking a bit older every month, maybe the finance guy can find a proud owner, that sort of thing.
I usually go the 5 year route to avoid the excessive
depreciation that is typical for 2003 and up Expedition. But, wanting the new 5.4L 3V engine.
...still like the Expedition XLT for my hard working, general utility use versus say some of the more plush full sized suv models...but my advice to Ford continues to be to get the excessive weight out of Expedition to salvage what otherwise would have been an excellent full-sized suv...forget the Toby Keith ads about massive frames...give us weight reduction so we can comfortably stay in full-sized suv (or F-150)..
Jan 19, 2006 (10:50 am)
I have a new expedition with 6,000 miles that I have not driven in 6 weeks because it will not start and the dealers cannot seem to fix the problem. They have tried everything, and every time I get the car back I drive it for an hour or two and then it won't restart. Be careful before prucharsing to be sure it doesn't have the same issue. I wonder how long the starters have been a problem?