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Ford Expedition, SUV
#276 of 379 Re: I phoned/emailed the dealership in Tustin an this is what I got (email)
Jul 20, 2005 (7:37 am)
I have been reading the discussion board with great interest over the last week or so and thank all for their comments. I am in the market for the 2005 King Ranch Expedition (for my wife). We live in Texas.
Of course if you go to the local dealer(s) you get the same spiel. Ford Family Pricing!
The purported MSRP after adding all the options is $46,905.00 and after the rebates and the employee pricing the prices plummets (Read the sarcasm!) to
I know the hold back on this is $1385.00 and the adjustment for financing cost is $215 for a total of $1,600.00
I am also aware that the Ford Family Plan dealer commission is: $2,550.00 and I am also aware of the other available potential eligible private/affialte programs.
As indicated above the dealers all say that Ford won't allow them to seel the vehicle any lower that the price above ($36,531.88).
I think this is a bunch of junk and figure that there is plenty of room to negotiate away some of that fat profit the dealer is holding. Don't get me wrong, I do beleive in capitalism and think that the dealer needs to make a reasonable profit but this to me is akin to highway robbery.
Am I being to unreasonable here? Anyone care to weight in.?
Regards to all.
#277 of 379 Re: I phoned/emailed the dealership in Tustin an this is what I got (email) [madra]
Jul 20, 2005 (10:04 am)
“bunch of junk”…”fat profit”…“akin to highway robbery”
If you don’t like the deal being offered take your business elsewhere.
Funny how the buyer always determines what a reasonable profit is. You must remember 2 important things:
1. The dealer will always be in control because they have what you want, especially in your case. King Ranch Expeditions are not going to be found on every Ford dealer lot. If you have found a 2005 at the Family Plan price better but it NOW as dealers have been receiving 2006s for about 5 weeks.
2. The dealer!!! Not you, not Edmunds knows what the bottom dollar that given dealer will sell the vehicle for.
#278 of 379 Finished with Ford dealers in KS
Jul 20, 2005 (12:55 pm)
This morning I finished with the last two Ford dealers within a 75 miles of here (4 of them). I wanted to buy a '05 EB Expedition in wedgewood blue. The only requirement was that it have advance trac w/ RCS ( they have everything else we wanted). The found at least 3 in the color desired and with advance trac +. Every one had a bunch of other bells and whistles such as power 3 row seat, safety package and pwr. flip out windows, HD hitch and heated and cooled seats. Since it is late in the program I realize we have to take what is out there. Not one of the four dealers would give a nickle on the price. It was strictly MSRP less the "employee family price", less the $3000 factory discount. There was no leeway on the trade in (a perfect AWD Escape with less than 22.000 miles) it was exactly Kelly blue book price.....period. Some of the dealers wanted upwards of $200 to go get it from the other dealer's lot. I offered to go at my own expense and get it myself but that didn't seem to actually cut the price any as a couple of them suddenly remembered they had forgot to add an adminstrative fee. One salesman tried to tell me that their only profit was the dealer holdback and that was out if they had to get it from another dealer. BS....BS and more BS. If any of you managed to cut a deal that was better than MSRP minus $3000 minus the Ford family employee price consider yourself lucky. You didn't trade in central Kansas. I can download prices and see that there is several thousand difference between invoice and MSRP. I'll remember those dealers when I finally do work a trade.
#279 of 379 before the new discount program...
Jul 20, 2005 (3:09 pm)
in the washington dc area, i saw adds for 30% off msrp on any expedition. on a 46k machine, that's about 14k off. maybe it's better to wait.
#280 of 379 Weekly report from AZ
Jul 20, 2005 (8:31 pm)
I confirm what was placed in KS. Nothing less than the Family program. It would seem that the deals were better BEFORE that new program. I'll wait until their earnings are down another 19% next quarter... Thanks to everyone posting. At least we all know we are in the same boat... mostly...
#281 of 379 Re: before the new discount program... [explorerx4]
Jul 20, 2005 (8:37 pm)
I can confirm the same thing in Southern California. It was very common to see selling prices of $28,995.00 on a 41K Eddie Bauer Expedition. It's really something how the American Manufacturers and American public are nolonger seeing "eye to eye" on what is "perceived value".
#282 of 379 05 Black EB Expedition 5.4L 3V 4x4 $34,000. +
Jul 24, 2005 (3:26 am)
power rear-quarter flip windows
powerfold 3rd row seat
I paid $34,000 with $200 doc fees, $1700 Ma sales tax and $85 plates/title fees. Total check off the lot $35985.00
Sticker was $45850 with the above mentioned options.
Hope that helps anyone out there shopping.
Bought it June 2, 2005
Hope this helps people out there, I love the idea of sharing this info to help each other out.
#283 of 379 Re: 05 Black EB Expedition 5.4L 3V 4x4 $34,000. + [captjoe06]
Jul 25, 2005 (8:44 am)
Thanks Capt Joe;
Your response is much appreciated. It is possible there are some folks on the forum who don't like when the 'real' numbers are posted but I do beleive you are doing a good service to all.
#284 of 379 Re: I phoned/emailed the dealership in Tustin an this is what I got (email) [madra]
Jul 27, 2005 (7:25 am)
I have been trying to determine what the employee discount really means? Can you or anyone else help? Is the auto maker eliminating all other incentives to the dealer (holdback, advertising incentives, etc.) and replacing those with this program, or is the employee discount just another discount on top of everything else?
It is my understanding that the auto makers will actually sell a vehicle to a dealer at a price reduced by the employee discount being offered. If that is the case, the auto maker eats 100% of the employee discount.
However, you mentioned that there is a dealer commission on the vehicle you were looking at purchasing. Under that scenario, both the dealer and the auto maker will share the burden of the employee discount.
In Tampa, FL, new 2005 E/B 4x2 Expeditions that MSRP for about $40K before the Family pricing were advertised for sale at $28.5K after all incentives. The current Family price after all incentives is almost $31K. Sounds like a scam to me.
#285 of 379 Re: I phoned/emailed the dealership in Tustin an this is what I got (email)
Jul 28, 2005 (8:36 pm)
"n Tampa, FL, new 2005 E/B 4x2 Expeditions that MSRP for about $40K before the Family pricing were advertised for sale at $28.5K after all incentives. The current Family price after all incentives is almost $31K. Sounds like a scam to me."
I can concur the same thing happened in Los Angeles. It seems the prices were better "BEFORE THE EMPLOYEE DISCOUNT PROGRAM"...........
But, the 31K is still not a bad price. None of us know what will happen when the '06s come out.