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Ford Expedition Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: I phoned/emailed the dealership in Tustin an this is what I got (email) [chuck1] by daericks
Jul 13, 2005 (3:40 pm)
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Replying to: chuck1 (Jul 13, 2005 1:57 pm)

Thanks Chuck, I'll keep you posted. Heading out of town until Monday but I will keep this going. I don't need financing and expect to pay cash for the car but I understand what you are saying about financing. Thanks again, Dan
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Re: I phoned/emailed the dealership in Tustin an this is what I got (email) by chuck1
Jul 14, 2005 (8:46 pm)
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Replying to: daericks (Jul 13, 2005 3:40 pm)

See the message board Smart Shopper - And the discussion
 Dealers Too Busy For OnLine Shoppers
And message 146
 
I think you will get my point.
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Re: Ford Expedition: Prices Paid & Buying Experience by godfrey
Jul 19, 2005 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: chuck1 (Jul 14, 2005 8:46 pm)

5 Weeks ago I purchased a 2004 Expedition (Eddie Bauer) 23,200 miles. It consists of the following:
 
Medium Wedgwood blue, tan leather interior, 6 disc changer, rear air, dual power front seats, heated/cooled front seats, trailer tow package, power folding third row seats. 5.4l V8. It is (almost) loaded. It does not have NAV, Air Susp, Adv Track or DVD.
 
The dealer offered it as a "certified" vehicle, so the warranty goes out to 75k instead of 36k. It was very well cared for, any only had one small scratch in the rear driver-side passenger door which the dealer (still has not fixed). Overall it's a great SUV.
 
Asking price was well above $36,000. It had sat on the lot for a LONG time. I started my offer at $28,500. I ended up paying $30,450 - delivered. Sales tax and licensing here in Missouri was an additional $1,994. The dealer would have loved to finance this...and sometimes they'll offer you a great deal if they think you'll do that...Then you pay cash and the offer changes all the sudden. I paid cash for mine, they acted like I actually had 30k in my pocket. I don't have pants with that many pockets. Where the deal changes is when the dealer discovers that they'll no longer be able to "profit" with a high intrest rate. This happened to my father when he bought his 97 Infinity I30. The price suddenly jumped several thousand when he started to write the check. So, you just walk out and let them follow you, begging you to buy it. If they don't move on the price then tell them "If you haven't met your quota by the end of the month then call me."
 
My buying experience...I've looked at these for over a year. I was ready to purchase. I was also armed with "The Black Book" which shows dealer invoice, wholesale, retail, trade-in. So I knew where to target my entry price...Always start low, not too low otherwise they'll tune you out. If they do, go to another dealer.
 
You always feel that you've paid too much once you've bought it. My wife always says:
 
Does it hurt to want? (Yes) Then stop wanting.
Does it hurt to want? (No) Then keep wanting.
 
You just can't win on that one.
 
Phil
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Re: I phoned/emailed the dealership in Tustin an this is what I got (email) by madra
Jul 20, 2005 (7:37 am)
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Replying to: daericks (Jul 13, 2005 10:48 am)

I have been reading the discussion board with great interest over the last week or so and thank all for their comments. I am in the market for the 2005 King Ranch Expedition (for my wife). We live in Texas.
 
Of course if you go to the local dealer(s) you get the same spiel. Ford Family Pricing!
 
The purported MSRP after adding all the options is $46,905.00 and after the rebates and the employee pricing the prices plummets (Read the sarcasm!) to
 
$36,531.88.
 
I know the hold back on this is $1385.00 and the adjustment for financing cost is $215 for a total of $1,600.00
 
I am also aware that the Ford Family Plan dealer commission is: $2,550.00 and I am also aware of the other available potential eligible private/affialte programs.
 
As indicated above the dealers all say that Ford won't allow them to seel the vehicle any lower that the price above ($36,531.88).
 
I think this is a bunch of junk and figure that there is plenty of room to negotiate away some of that fat profit the dealer is holding. Don't get me wrong, I do beleive in capitalism and think that the dealer needs to make a reasonable profit but this to me is akin to highway robbery.
 
Am I being to unreasonable here? Anyone care to weight in.?
 
Regards to all.
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Re: I phoned/emailed the dealership in Tustin an this is what I got (email) [madra] by dsb2695
Jul 20, 2005 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: madra (Jul 20, 2005 7:37 am)

“bunch of junk”…”fat profit”…“akin to highway robbery”
 
If you don’t like the deal being offered take your business elsewhere.
 
Funny how the buyer always determines what a reasonable profit is. You must remember 2 important things:
 
1. The dealer will always be in control because they have what you want, especially in your case. King Ranch Expeditions are not going to be found on every Ford dealer lot. If you have found a 2005 at the Family Plan price better but it NOW as dealers have been receiving 2006s for about 5 weeks.
 
2. The dealer!!! Not you, not Edmunds knows what the bottom dollar that given dealer will sell the vehicle for.
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Finished with Ford dealers in KS by royalh
Jul 20, 2005 (12:55 pm)
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This morning I finished with the last two Ford dealers within a 75 miles of here (4 of them). I wanted to buy a '05 EB Expedition in wedgewood blue. The only requirement was that it have advance trac w/ RCS ( they have everything else we wanted). The found at least 3 in the color desired and with advance trac +. Every one had a bunch of other bells and whistles such as power 3 row seat, safety package and pwr. flip out windows, HD hitch and heated and cooled seats. Since it is late in the program I realize we have to take what is out there. Not one of the four dealers would give a nickle on the price. It was strictly MSRP less the "employee family price", less the $3000 factory discount. There was no leeway on the trade in (a perfect AWD Escape with less than 22.000 miles) it was exactly Kelly blue book price.....period. Some of the dealers wanted upwards of $200 to go get it from the other dealer's lot. I offered to go at my own expense and get it myself but that didn't seem to actually cut the price any as a couple of them suddenly remembered they had forgot to add an adminstrative fee. One salesman tried to tell me that their only profit was the dealer holdback and that was out if they had to get it from another dealer. BS....BS and more BS. If any of you managed to cut a deal that was better than MSRP minus $3000 minus the Ford family employee price consider yourself lucky. You didn't trade in central Kansas. I can download prices and see that there is several thousand difference between invoice and MSRP. I'll remember those dealers when I finally do work a trade.
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before the new discount program... by explorerx4
Jul 20, 2005 (3:09 pm)
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in the washington dc area, i saw adds for 30% off msrp on any expedition. on a 46k machine, that's about 14k off. maybe it's better to wait.
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Weekly report from AZ by daericks
Jul 20, 2005 (8:31 pm)
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I confirm what was placed in KS. Nothing less than the Family program. It would seem that the deals were better BEFORE that new program. I'll wait until their earnings are down another 19% next quarter... Thanks to everyone posting. At least we all know we are in the same boat... mostly...
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Re: before the new discount program... [explorerx4] by chuck1
Jul 20, 2005 (8:37 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jul 20, 2005 3:09 pm)

I can confirm the same thing in Southern California. It was very common to see selling prices of $28,995.00 on a 41K Eddie Bauer Expedition. It's really something how the American Manufacturers and American public are nolonger seeing "eye to eye" on what is "perceived value".
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05 Black EB Expedition 5.4L 3V 4x4 $34,000. + by captjoe06
Jul 24, 2005 (3:26 am)
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Safety/security package
 
heated/cooled seats
 
power moonroof
 
power rear-quarter flip windows
 
powerfold 3rd row seat
 
I paid $34,000 with $200 doc fees, $1700 Ma sales tax and $85 plates/title fees. Total check off the lot $35985.00
 
Sticker was $45850 with the above mentioned options.
Hope that helps anyone out there shopping.
 
Bought it June 2, 2005
 
Hope this helps people out there, I love the idea of sharing this info to help each other out.

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