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#925 of 1936 Re: ADVANCE TRAC ADVICE NEEDED BEFORE PURCHASE [txmaverick]
Dec 29, 2004 (7:43 am)
One of the big disappointments for my 2004 NBX is the sorry chrome clad steel wheels versus the true chrome steels wheels that came on my 2003 FX4. The Ford dealer guys have already dented a couple of the chrome clad "wheels" simply removing wheel weights to balance wheels. To get these wonderful off-road steel wheels on the NBX you give up the nice XLT aluminum wheels and the tire pressure monitoring. Also the skid plates and steel wheels add vehicle weight to an already over weight Expedition 4wd. Another point to consider is that the NBX was dropped by Ford in October 2004 for the 2005 model year. Despite the 5,760 weight of my NBX, it can nearly be "dirt tracked" as far as the handling goes. Stiffer handling is handy when working hard, towing, off-road, curves, etc. If a softer ride for mom and the kids is priority, skip the NBX.
Note that 2004 and up Expeditions have a new steering ratio at 20.5 or so to 1, versus the earlier 17:1. 20.5 ratio is slower, but still does not cancel benefits of R&P steering that was new in 2003.
At low rpm the 2004 5.4 2v and the 2005 3v feel about the same. But, when you push the 2005 5.4 3v in higher rpm ranges, the 3v is the winner by far. Similar mileage, but the 3v has to have the edge. Overall the 5.4 3v cancels out much of the overweight feel of the Epedition. Skid plates and 5.4 2v make 2004 NBX a quieter runner versus all other Expeditions including E/B.
If I had to shop the 2004 NBX again, I would ship the NBX due to the cheap wheels and go for the 5.4 4WD in XLT, XLT Sport, or E/B and add shocks as desired. Lots of bargains in 2004 E/B if you are going to keep the unit for a while. ( all new 2004s will have free fall in wholesale value as you drive off )
Hey, NBX. Ford guys put a new rear end in my 2004 NBX and the whine is completly gone. But, same old sorry OEM tires to deal with.
P.s. Happy New Year to all.
#926 of 1936 2003 Expy EB 4x4 Tire Sizes
Dec 29, 2004 (5:10 pm)
I have a 2003 EB 4x4 which currently has the not so enjoyable 265/70/17 Continental tires on it. I'd like to go with 15" or 16" mag rims and much bigger tires. But I was told by "Just Tires" that the Expedition can't handle rims smaller than the 17" one that came on it.
My questions are these:
1. Is that true or can I go down to 16" rims?
2. If it is true, what's the biggest size tires I can put on it witht he 17" rims it came with and not rub or cause problems? and
3. If it's not true and I can go down a little in size, then what's the biggest size tire I can put on a 16" rim without causing any problems?
I'm currently looking at the Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo and the Michelin LTX M/S.
Thank you for any and all help you can provide!
#927 of 1936 Re: Dust Covers [headlinesman1]
Dec 29, 2004 (5:39 pm)
Can you tell me any more info on the brake pads? I just want to be able to go in and tell them AGAIN about the dust and the pads and FINALLY get some new pads. And I want them for free. I've been compaining about them since I got the truck almost 18K miles ago!
Any and all information you may have would be greatly appreciated!
#928 of 1936 Re: Dust Covers [bginsberg1]
Dec 30, 2004 (5:47 pm)
What year is the truck?
#929 of 1936 Re: Dust Covers [nvbanker]
Dec 31, 2004 (1:58 pm)
It's a 2003 Expedition EB. Got any suggestions as to what to ask for or just tell the customer service guy at Ford to get the new covers or pads at no charge?
Jan 01, 2005 (4:32 pm)
From what I've heard, there are replacement pads that don't produce the black soot, and the covers work too. I'd be patient, but persistent, and nice. Nice works best, every time, but so does relentless. Ford stepped up on mine no argument and took care of everything no charge, no reason they shouldn't for you too.
#932 of 1936 Slow Turn Grind/Bind
Jan 01, 2005 (8:11 pm)
I am sure this has been addressed before so I apologize but I am frustrated! My '03 Expedition has developed a sort of grinding or binding sound when turning right and sometimes left when proceeding from a stop. Example: Turning right from a stop light/sign. I have had it in 2 times but of course it didn't do for the dealership. It is getting worse, and the last time in, it did it little for the mechanic who rode with me. He said it was probably just a fuel line vibrating. BULL CRAP! My brother, a Mercedes Service Manager has experienced it a number of times while riding w/ me. Last time he happened to be in the 2nd row and he said it sound like it was coming from the rear axle. I even took the TSB dealing with this issue in the last time but the mechanic shook it off saying he laughs when customers bring these in thinking they apply to their car. HELP HELP HELP
Jan 01, 2005 (8:21 pm)
Mine was doing the same thing - turned out to be the front brakes were totally shot, linings, rotors, everything was schrapnel at 24,000 miles. Ford replaced everything at no charge for me.
#934 of 1936 Hesitation?Skipping
Jan 01, 2005 (9:24 pm)
I have an '03 EB and started noticing the engine "skipping" and "missing" during acceleration and idling. This started after taking it to a car wash. Could water have gotten into the engine compartment and be causing this??