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#842 of 1934 2004 Expedition differential whine
Oct 22, 2004 (10:17 pm)
At 5,000 miles it developed a whine around 40 mph.
The dealer says Ford has a problem which came about when they made the Expedition larger. To remove some weight, and with the independent rear suspension, they made part of the diff. out of aluminum and had to attach it to the body, which amplifies the whine. Explorers have the same problem, but Ford has developed a Premium part which fixed the problem, but won't have an answer for Expedition until January, February 2005. They are willing to replace the rear diff, but with no guarantee it will be any better. I want to know why Ford sells these knowing they have a problem, and are selling the 2005 with the same problem, and not telling the public. Is that legal? Who do I write about this?
#843 of 1934 I'm not sure about that...
Oct 23, 2004 (1:53 pm)
A) It's not that much larger...
B) They don't all whine, mine doesn't whine.. and I have 23,000 miles on it so far...
C) The Explorers did have some that whined, and it was improper lubricant that was incorrectly installed in some differentials in one plant. Those were replaced, and that solved the problem. The rest were fine.
I think your dealer is talking through his hat, myself.....
#844 of 1934 fx4 - Rear View Mirror button removal
Oct 23, 2004 (7:51 pm)
After careful examination, I can see on the windshield pretty clearly where the button was. However, I still cannot figure out how to get the button out of the mirror bracket! Anyone have any suggestions on how I can remove the button from the rear view mirror on a 98 Expedition?
#845 of 1934 Re: fx4 - Rear View Mirror button removal [maytag87]
Oct 23, 2004 (11:58 pm)
Rob, usually, if you look at the underside of the attchment, there is a small hole, in to which you need to stick something the size of an icepick, or a very small screwdriver, this will release the attachment from the mirror.
#846 of 1934 Re: I'm not sure about that... [nvbanker]
Oct 24, 2004 (12:01 am)
I wondered the same, but the service manager showed me many junked diff and spoke with the regional service manager while I was in the office. Not all have the whine, but he said a large portion do, so I am at the point of going to General Motors or living with it. Thanks for the reply.
#847 of 1934 Good heavens, man......GM's not the answer!
Oct 24, 2004 (3:44 pm)
Are you serious? Then you have a company that's been putting out V-8 engines with piston slap for years now knowingly, and doing nothing about it! Is that going to sit well with you? Their 1/2 ton trucks with extended cabs wobble in the middle from weak frames at freeway speeds, and they just shrug their shoulders and say, "they all do that". No, I wouldn't go there. Either go to Toyota, or maybe Nissan or Dodge, not GM, if it's too aggravating to live with. If it's too aggravating for you to live with though, I assure you, you won't like the General even moreso.
#848 of 1934 Re: [nvbanker]
Oct 25, 2004 (9:39 pm)
No I don't have any other aftermarket equipment on the truck.
#849 of 1934 03 Expedition rolls out of driveway w/emer brake on
Oct 27, 2004 (11:25 am)
On Saturday, Oct 2nd my 2003 XLT Expedition with 10K miles rolled out of my driveway and across the street into my neighbors car and house. It was in park with the emergency brake set and had been sitting in the driveway for about 15-20 mins!!! I had just returned from an errand, sat in the vehicle for a few minutes cleaning some trash out of it because my husband and son were going to take it to the deer woods. I had gone back out to the vehicle 2 times putting snacks in it for them. It never moved. I came back inside, put everything away, went to my bedroom at the other end of the house, came back to the garage to empty a bathroom trash can, come back in and then I hear the most horrible groaning screeching metal sound. I instinctively ducked because I thought something was about to crash on top of me!! I looked out into the garage trying to figure out what was happening to see my truck start to roll down our VERY steep driveway. We took photos as well as video and had it documented in the police report that it was in park with the emergency/park brake set. Of course, Ford can find nothing wrong with it. It must surely be due to my neglect. I must not have gotten it all the way in park and set the parking brake fully. Ok, I've only be parking my other 7 GM products on this hill for 13 years and not a darn one of those ever rolled out of the driveway!! I got my truck back on the 21st and immediately came home and tested the emergency brake. Do you think it held??? Nope. I pulled in set the brake and put the truck in neutral. Down the hill we go. Pull up again, put the truck in reverse, set the brake. Down the hill we go. So back to the Ford dealership I go. Well guess what. The parking brake won't hold on a 45 degree angle and there is nothing they can do. It will keep the truck from rolling forward (only in neutral, put it in drive and it's gone) but not backward. How screwed up is that? What the heck is your emergency brake for Ford? If it will stop it from going forward then it should stop it from rolling backwards too. I got this info from the Service Manager at NorthPoint Ford in Sherwood, AR. He said on older models he could tighten the brake to help it but newer models there was nothing he could do. How on earth are these vehicles making it thru safety testing? I'm sure there are millions of others who, like me, are counting on their emergency brakes. All I can say is you better test it before you trust it. It is now up to us to have our transmission and rear end torn down to see if they can find a problem. $750 dollars out of our pockets. Ford won't do anything because they can't get it to repeat the problem. They tested it on an incline that is maybe 1/4 of the grade of our driveway. I've had the truck in the shop in Jan for it jumping on me in park before on a smaller incline. Of course, Ford can't find a problem. It's also been in the shop before for rear end work. Now I have to back up my driveway and set the brake to at least feel halfway secure that it won't end up in my neighbor's house again should whatever happened reoccur. Today it's raining and the stupid thing won't even back up the driveway. All it does is spin. This was my first Ford purchase and it will be my last!!!!!
#850 of 1934 Emergency Brake
Oct 29, 2004 (8:27 am)
I just tested my emergency brake and.........same thing! It holds OK on a level surface, but it started to roll with the "e" brake on and transmission in neutral on a rather steep incline. I have noticed that emergency brakes on rear disc brakes are rather flimsy. If you're used to using the "e" brake alot, there may be times when the brake doesn't release all the way causing premature brake wear, which could result in some drastic consequences such as yours. I own an 03 Expedition which has been in the shop numerous times for varying reasons. This will be my last Ford product. I'll be returning to Chevy Suburbans sometime next calendar year.
#851 of 1934 Rattle in Dash board
Nov 01, 2004 (9:57 am)
I have a rattle that sounds like it is coming from the right side of the dashboard in an 04
Expedition, Anyone else have a similar experience and what was the cause?