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#415 of 1953 Post 276, see Ford Article 03-6-4
Sep 19, 2003 (12:55 pm)
The Ford material handed me after the repair of my 2003 FX4 is Ford Article 03-6-4. It says it is to republish Article 02-25-7 to clarify specific tool usage. Apparently a specific brand or type of high quality snap-ring pliers are mandatory for the Ford techs to install the S-Spring properly into the front axle differential. There are instructions on using the proper silicone gasket sealant and other related matters to guide the Ford tech.
The repair is for 2003 Expeditions and Navigators, 4wd, having a groan or hum and/or slight vibration at times in 2wd high. My FX4 was built 1-2-03, and had the problem from very early on. The S-Spring repair per Article 03-6-4 seems to have completely solved the problem--for now anyway. No leak.
Besides stopping the rumble or roar while coasting at say 15-45 mph in 2wd high, the unit now shifts from 2wd into the next setting over (A something) without the awful chunk it had when new.
Hope it lasts after warranty.
Don't know the difference/relationship if any between a TSB and the above Article.?
From my research of a number of web posts and the July 2002 NHTSA TSB data, I would conclude that the above is a widespread problem with at least A and B VIN production 4wd units.
#416 of 1953 Psot 275
Sep 19, 2003 (1:14 pm)
Hey nvbanker, you mean golf grip type? Ha! Carpet tape wouldn't be cool enough.
Sep 19, 2003 (3:43 pm)
Not sure what they're using fx4, but it worked like a charm
#418 of 1953 Expedition ?
Sep 19, 2003 (9:36 pm)
I am looking to trade up to an older model(97 or 98) Expedition from my older Explorer. Any recomendations on what to avoid or tips on what to look for?
Sep 20, 2003 (4:03 pm)
Yes. Make sure you get the 5.4L triton engine, the 4.6L is just too small for that truck IMO. The 99's held up exceptionally well.
Sep 23, 2003 (7:40 am)
Your attorney fees are only paid by the manufacturer if you win. The aspects of the repairs are also very important to your LL claim (cosmetic, nuisance, mechanical, safety, etc). The laws vary state by state, but there are specific conditions you need to meet.
What revision '03 do you have - A,B, or C? (it is the the 6th or seventh digit from last in the VIN just before the sequential number
#422 of 1953 Reference post 281
Sep 23, 2003 (7:46 am)
Will second what nvbanker says in post 282.
Also, note that the heavy duty 4R100 (order code 44E) transmission was standard with the 5.4L in Expedition for years 97-02. Some later 4wd models even have the seldom seen transmission drain plugs. The 4R100 is used with the 6.8 V-10 Triton and 5.4L in F-250, E-350 vans, etc. Point is the 4R100 combined with 5.4L in used Expeditions are good heavy duty values for towing up to 7,400 in 4wd and 8,300 or so in 3.73 ratio 2wd. A properly cared for used 5.4L unit should last for years of heavy use.
As additional transmission information, the modern slightly lighter duty 4R70W (code 44U) is used in the 4.6L and 5.4L in 2003 Expedition. The 2003 Navigator with 5.4L 4v got the 4R100. The 4R70W was upgraded to handle the increased torque of the 5.4L 3v triton in 2004 F-150. Upgraded version already in production in 2004 Expedition in both 4.6L and 5.4L 2v Triton (tranny code 44W or something like that ?).
...just some bits of information from an old Ford man that someone might be able to use...
#423 of 1953 03 Ford Lemon B revision Expedition
Sep 23, 2003 (9:38 am)
In NJ the mfg. pays all legal fees if you win. If you lose the atty. worked pro bono. The catch is they will only accept cases they think they can win. I spoke to an atty. that I got from an ISP, and he is familiar with this vehicle. Especially the A & B revisions.I have serious steering and drive problems not to mention auto mirrors and A/C problems.This vehicle has been back for svce 6x's in the 4 months since I purchased it.
Sep 28, 2003 (7:49 am)
Have an 03 expy. Had the door noise and the dealership found the handle rod hitting. they fixed that and tightened loose door trim that was rattling also.
Got the car in May,03 and have had the rear differential completely replaced in July and then had noise again 6 weeks later. This time (September) they replaced only the clutch packs - 2nd time for the lemon law. Has Ford figured out this problem yet or will I be having a third strike?
How does the lemon law work (PA)?
Any insight helpful. Am very frustrated but love the car.