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Re: 1999 Expedition: Engine Stutter, Low Gas Mileage [togden] by tidester HOST
Jun 02, 2008 (8:25 pm)
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Replying to: togden (May 29, 2008 12:17 am)

Can anyone give togden a hand with his problems? Thanks!
 
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Starting problems with the key and Theft device by gniotnl1
Jun 03, 2008 (6:56 am)
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Our 99 expedition won't start with the key from time to time the theft lights go on and it won't turn over, someone told my husband to start it three times real fast and it'll start, it worked, until yesterday, it won't start at all. What could be the problem?
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Re: Starting problems with the key and Theft device [gniotnl1] by m2008g
Jun 03, 2008 (7:38 pm)
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Replying to: gniotnl1 (Jun 03, 2008 6:56 am)

I have a 97 and had a similar problem. It took a bit of investigating to identify the intermittent problem for me. First the dealer suggested trying both keys to see if I had the same problem as sometimes the key needs to be replaced. That was not it. I noticed that sometimes when it happened, it was not exactly on Park and that if I shifted into Neutral and back into Park it would start. They checked it out and found a screw/bracket missing from the shift cable assembly as I recall. They fixed it and I have not had the problem since. I am not sure if this was related to the TSB issued .
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Re: Starting problems with the key and Theft device [gniotnl1] by thediyguy
Jun 13, 2008 (7:16 pm)
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Replying to: gniotnl1 (Jun 03, 2008 6:56 am)

if the theft light goes off its an easy fix if its the starter relay switch like mine was.as it gets hot it quits starting?its located on the right side firewall just below the rain tray behind a snap in plastic cover.here's a link of what it looks like http://www.autozone.com/R,APP210913/vehicleId,2545102/initialAction,partProductD- etail/store,267/partType,00102/shopping/partProductDetail.htm.hope this helps.
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Re: 1999 Expedition: Engine Stutter, Low Gas Mileage [togden] by paul9250
Jul 03, 2008 (11:29 pm)
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Replying to: togden (May 29, 2008 12:17 am)

I've got a 97 Expedition with the Triton V8 and have had all of these problems. Causes may not be the same but here's what I found: (I'm an experienced mechanic)
 
Engine studder/miss: Assuming you don't have the check engine light on and there are not codes showing on the ODBII port read out the missing is likely moisture inside one or more of the coil pack rubber boots or a faulty coil pack. Pull the coil packs and check for moisture inside the spark plug tube or the spark plug boot. A good indicator will be corrosion on the spark plug. Next, if you've never changed the plugs do that next. If it still misses buy a new coil pack and change the coil packs out one at a time with the new one to see if you can eliminate the problem. Try the #3 hole first. That one seems to be a problem area. Its also the most common blow out hole (these engines suffer from spark plug blow outs).
 
Transmission leak: Add some flourescent die to the transmission fluid and run the vehicle until the transmission oil temp is up to normal. Shine a black light around the tranny until you can identify where he leak is coming from. Then trace is back to the source.
 
Rear end noise: This one stumped two dealers around here. The problem for me ended up being the shock mounting bolts. Over time the holes get oval and the bushing ends develop play that only shows up when the rear end is articulating. The only way I found it was to put the vehicle up an a lift and with a couple of friends shook the rear suspension up and down as hard as we could. (btw - make sure your spare tire is tight in its mount. This also causes a clunking noise if its loose). Replace the lower shock mounting bolts with new ones. If you haven't changed the shocks in a while now would be a good time. Especially, if the lower shock bushing are shot.
 
Low gas mileage: This is probably directly related to the missing. The first culprit here would be the mass air sensor. But, if you don't have an engine check light on and no codes showing then this won't be the problem. Check the mileage after you solve the missing problem. Borrow someone's ODBII code reader and get a read out from your ODBII port just to make sure you don't have a problem with a sensor. (i.e. an oxygen sensor could be going bad).
 
Hope this helps.
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Rear Ventilation system click and whump sounds by jg88
Jul 10, 2008 (8:36 am)
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Here's one for the books -- can't find a TSB on it either. '04 expy EB with the rear climate control system. When I set the dial in the 1st and 2nd positions for rear ventilation, it makes two different sounds behind the middle seat on the passenger side. In the 1st position, it clicks, 2nd position, it makes a "whump" sound. Position 1 is "click, click, click..."; position 2 is "whump, whump, whump...". When the rear dial is returned to the "off" position (farthest to the left), it goes away.
 
Also, if I set the vent system to "floor", it disappears. On the higher level setting, it comes back. Sometimes it goes away, other times it does not. Is there some sort of a vent regulator behind the passenger side middle seat? If so, does anyone know what this is, if there is a TSB or is this just one of those weird items no one else has experienced?
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Re: Rear Ventilation system click and whump sounds [jg88] by alwaysfords2
Jul 11, 2008 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: jg88 (Jul 10, 2008 8:36 am)

it is one of the two blend door actuators. Could be the one that takes it from floor to ceiling, or the one that controls the temp mix. I'd guess it is the floor to ceiling one, which is the easier of the two to replace. You need to remove the change/junk tray under the passenger side quarter window. Flex it in the middle, it is just attached by plastic arrow heads molded into the tray itself. Just slightly forward of that there is a beige/white box. That is the actuator. You can check if it is the culprit by unplugging it and seeing if the noise goes away. To remove it is a simple three screw job. It is easier to manipulate it if you take out the cup holder just ahead of it. It also just pops out. Should take $30 and 15 minutes to do, or $200 at the dealer.
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Re: Rear Ventilation system click and whump sounds [jg88] by bronsonb
Jul 14, 2008 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: jg88 (Jul 10, 2008 8:36 am)

I had this same problems, and as the other poster mentioned, it was a relatively simple repair. I actually removed the entire cover in the back seat area. It required a special "star socket" to remove the second row passenger side seat belt anchor, and then the rest of the plastic cover on that side popped out with a little prying (might be a screw under the plastic cover above the bumper that needs to be removed too).
 
The two units that are the culprits are about 1/2" thick, squarish in design and about the size of a pack of cigarettes (but a bit larger). They are held in by a few screws and a simple plug. As the previous poster noted, unplug one and see if the sound goes away.
 
I ordered replacements online, but you could probably get them from your local Ford store too. One of the actuators costs about $18, but the other was almost $40. Overall it was an easy repair considering I'd seen posters who said they paid $400 to get that fixed.
 
Good luck.
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Re: 2004 Expedition, NBX [wichezer] by jantj5
Jul 17, 2008 (5:12 pm)
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Replying to: wichezer (Mar 31, 2006 5:52 pm)

I have the same problem. Did you find a solution?
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Cooling fluid leak above my starter moter by genoah
Aug 09, 2008 (11:23 am)
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I have a 97 Ford Expedition 4.6 V8 with a really bad leak, there’s cooling fluid really pouring out of a spot that I cannot exactly see above the starter motor. The hoses and lines seem intact and there’s no water in the oil and it runs ok as long as I keep topping up. Any help or advice would be lovely,
Thanks,
Jessica

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