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#1628 of 1953 Just bought a used 04 Eddie Bauer Expedition
Oct 08, 2006 (5:14 pm)
Hi! I just purchased a used 2004 Eddie Bauer Expedition and am really enjoying it. It only has 34000 miles and is still under warranty. It drives like a dream and is everything my family needs.
I bought the car from a used car dealer, but the previous owner had installed these 22" chrome rims and tires on it. To make the deal, the dealer purchased a new set of 17" alloy rims and tires that had been on a new Ford F-150 (and hardly ever driven) and put them on my SUV.
The "Tire pressure monitoring system fault" warning is displaying (the dealer noted it had been displaying with the 22" rims as well). After reviewing the owner's guide, I figure it is because although these wheels match OEM Eddie Bauer rims, they must not have been equipped with the tire pressure monitors on the wheels.
Does anyone know if those monitors can be added after the fact? Obviously, the car is equipped with the monitoring system, so if the transmitters were in the tires, it should work. I guess I was curious what this would run me if I went to a Ford dealer and asked to have it done. I'll call tomorrow, but I imagine it will be some $$$.
Thanks for your help!
#1629 of 1953 Re: My Expedition is Possessed!!! [nppubs]
Oct 10, 2006 (9:12 am)
i am having the same trouble with my EB expedition. My windows stop working and I cant shift out of park. I never had a problem like this with my navigator. Someone PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!
#1630 of 1953 Re: My Expedition is Possessed!!! [phillyizm]
Oct 10, 2006 (2:22 pm)
Well, my Expy is on the way to the dealer tomorrow. We did some looking, searching, etc and found that even if you could find a part in the yard, or bought it new, it would have to be programed. No where in the book you get at the autoparts store does it talk about that. Either way, it sounds like in my position, it's going to be 800 bucks. And a four day wait because- guess what??? they are backed up in the electrical department. Since I hit 90K This thing has been wierder and wierder. And I am not happy about how much this is going to cost. Hope you have better luck!
#1631 of 1953 Re: My Expedition is Possessed!!! [nppubs]
Oct 10, 2006 (2:25 pm)
On the getting out of park thing- There is a way, but if you don't have tail lights, turn signals, etc, it will only help you get the vehicle home if you are stranded like I was in a McDonalds parking lot... Turn the key just barely on and rock it back and forth a little bit as you try to slip. And I mean just barely. When you get it into neutral, it will start. Run like crap, but start.
#1632 of 1953 Re: Wind noise [alnan]
Oct 13, 2006 (7:57 pm)
I am having the same problem, but have not had it checked out yet. I hope that they find a resolution. Can you keep me up to date.
#1633 of 1953 Brake Problems! Please help!
Oct 16, 2006 (6:19 pm)
I have a '98 expedition EB with 105k miles on it. A few months ago i started to notice that when i would brake, depressing the pedal about 3/4 down the pedal would shake and vibrate. checked the brake fluid and i noticed it needed some so i filled it up and still had that problem. i then noticed my abs light would come on every now and then. i used to turn the car off, pump the pedal a few times and that was it, light was gone. then after a while the abs light would always come on as soon as i started moving the car. i took it to a brake specialist and was told my front driver side caliper was bad and i needed to replace my abs sensor located on the rear diff. they wanted to charge me $600.00 for repairs. i just laughed and demanded my car back. i called up my home mechanic who changed the sensor and checked out my brakes but determined my caliper was fine. had front brake pads replaced and rotors turned but still have the same problem. pedal vibrates when depressed about 3/4 down. no more abs light though. what could this be?? has anybody had similar problems?? thanks for your help!!
#1634 of 1953 Information on 4X4 problem, 2004 Expedition
Oct 17, 2006 (12:17 pm)
After several trips to the local Ford dealer due to my front hubs making all sorts of grinding noises in 2w high, it was discovered that acid from the battery was eating holes in the vacuum lines mounted on the firewall right next to the battery. The noises were worse in 2wd high as the vacuum dropped going up grades. The 4X4 system apparently relies on engine vacuum through these lines to keep the front hubs disengaged while in 2w high. Due to loss of vacuum, the hubs were trying to engage or something and thus all the clanging, grinding. On one occasion the entire 4wd was inoperative. Also appears that the new heat shield around the battery sags into and soaks the vacuum lines with acid. Not sure? Poor design to use such flimsy vacuum line material and in close proximity to the battery.
Solution. Do a vacuum loss test, replace, patch the vacuum lines as needed and keep the battery clean as possible. Replace the battery if necessary. Also added a plastic tie at home on my own to keep the vacuum lines from direct contact with battery or battery shield. Also periodic careful washing of vacuum lines with garden hose has helped.
As additional information, the shop foreman indicated the system has a built-in guard to keep the 4X4 from self destructing when the above vacuum is lost and all the grinding noises start.
#1635 of 1953 Re: Information on 4X4 problem, 2004 Expedition [nbx]
Oct 18, 2006 (4:55 pm)
Ya know something. . . ive had problems with a little looseness and play in the steering rack and the groaning/grinding from the front wheels has been getting worse and just about all the time. Ive brought my Expy into the dealer and they couldnt even comment on the groaning/grinding, said it was normal. . .NOT. . . funny to have this post come along cause today when i started to hear the groan/grinding, i put it in 4AWD. . . NO NOISE. . .NOTHING. . was perfect and silent. . .also I have always said that the steering rack feels noticeably tighter when in any of the 4wds. I would assume that the "variable speed assist steering" is run on vaccuum also and may be tied in with all this somehow. So NOW i can take it to the dealer and ask them to check the vaccuum lines associated with this. AMAZING how you came across this finding. . .THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.
#1636 of 1953 Re: Information on 4X4 problem, 2004 Expedition [razzmaniac]
Oct 18, 2006 (6:22 pm)
Does your front end clank when you put it in 4AWD while the vehicle is moving? If so, there is a TSB for that which might also address the groaning/grinding. I had it done to my 03.
#1637 of 1953 Re: Information on 4X4 problem, 2004 Expedition [zman3]
Oct 19, 2006 (6:49 am)
It doesnt clank when i put it into 4awd. . . but does SOMETIMES if i put it into 4hi or 4lo. . . aweful sound like grinding gears. . . All this though usually only happens when the truck is warmed up, especially the groaning/grinding sound, so that totally tells me its vaccuum related. ALSO with all of this vacuum issue. . . my tranny clunk hard into 2nd gear on the down shift at 20mph on decelerration EVERYTIME. . . Once again i wonder if this is all related to a vacuum problem seeing everything started to happen all at the same time, the loose steering at higher speeds, the tranny clunk and the groaning/grinding in the front end. Definately gonna bring it in with these posts to give the mechanic a heads up on what im talking about.
Thanks again for all these posts. . . makes life so much easier when explaining things to dealers. I dont feel like im going crazy anymore. . .love my truck and glad to hear its not a lemon. . . lol