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Replying to: qbrozen (Jul 29, 2008 8:18 am) interesting that there are far and few V8's around (Mine is a V8) eventhough the gas milage is almost the same as the new 6Clyinder. . . perhasp the V8 may be worth more? At the end of the day it may be a coin toss, or a reasonable dealer.
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Replying to: watchlover (Jul 29, 2008 9:01 am) |
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I love my XC 90. got close to 50k miles on first set of tires and brakes. Engine is clean as a whistle. Does not leak or consume anything but gas. Dealer maintenance was great. Now I moved to Hawaii. One dealer; He charges three times the going rate for everything. Cost over $100 to shake his hand. The brake light just came on Tuesday Brake Failure!!! Stop safely. ABS Check Engine, We're all going to die. No driveability issues. There is 3/16 of an inch on the inside and outside pad both front wheels and about 1/16 of an inch wear on both sides of the Massive rotor. By the way the rotor and pads look like they were machined. Nothing even beginning to look like irregular wear. Don't currently have a mic. the back pads are both over 1/4 inch thick and it would take a mic to determine wear on the rotor. I can buy OME parts off the net for all four wheels less than $599 It will cost me over $1000 to get my brakes done at the dealer. He wants $189 a rotor. Do I have a snowball's chance in Hades getting the lights to shut off if I change the brakes myself? Sensors: they did not jump out at me while I checking things. Where are they, or does the computer just tell you to redo the brakes at 45K? I'm afraid that putting the parts on my self and going to the deal for OBD will result in,"we can't help unless we do the work our selves with our parts." I planned on putting 200k miles on this thing , but if I have to go to this dealer I'm going to get it fixed and unload it. Any comments apprediated. Rob
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Replying to: hickorystick (Aug 31, 2008 3:17 pm) I don't think this could possibly be just a "maintenance due" indication based on mileage, but rather that the diagnostic system detected a fault. As far as I know from what you have said this might not be pads/rotors at all, but might be one of the computers that operates the ABS/dynamic stability control. If you just need pads, why not go to an independent garage. They can probably reset the light. They will also mic the rotors and if they are thick enough then you might get them to just change the pads and not replace or turn the rotors.
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Replying to: jim314 (Aug 31, 2008 5:40 pm) |
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Replying to: hickorystick (Sep 01, 2008 12:59 am) An owner of an independent garage in Dallas told me that he didn't work on any European cars because the mfgrs would not sell them parts at discounted prices as with American and Japanese manufacturers. Repair facilities expect to make a profit on the parts they install, not just on the labor. It's frustrating to have a dealer charge so much, but you may have to use them. This could well be a computer failure, and they could well have special expertise in diagnosing this. This could just be an instance of the high cost of living in Hawaii, but it sure is beautiful. Years ago I lived on Molokai and did practice teaching at Molokai High School. I assume that you have checked the level of the fluid in the master cylinder reservoir, and it's not that. Does the ABS work? Can you feel the pulsation of the pedal when you stop hard under conditions where the ABS would be active?
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Replying to: hickorystick (Sep 01, 2008 12:59 am) JIM MACDONALD The Canadian Press September 1, 2008 at 2:27 PM EDT EDMONTON — Canada's small auto shops are warning that the cost of getting newer vehicles serviced could “skyrocket” because they say some auto makers are restricting access to vital diagnostic software. Without the software, smaller shops are forced to send some repairs to dealerships, and the volume of this dealers-only work will increase as more computer systems are added to new models. |
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Replying to: jim314 (Sep 01, 2008 3:51 am)
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Replying to: hickorystick (Sep 06, 2008 12:32 am) |
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Replying to: hickorystick (Sep 06, 2008 12:32 am) For one thing, it's proprietary information. The only reference the law makes is that diagnostics relating to the Emissions system must be universal. Second, the manufacturers don't "limit" access. They charge for it. Most small shops either can't afford, or don't want to pay the access fees. Volvo's diagnostic system is web based. Your vehicles operating system can be downloaded and sent to Sweden for analysis. Finally, these cars are way to complex for your average independent garage to deal with anyway. Dealers are constantly sending their techs to school to learn about the latest auto electronics. |
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