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Re: Gas or Diesel. [lance17]
by fphilli1
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May 02, 2009 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: lance17 (May 02, 2009 8:41 am)
I have had a 2001 Diesel Limited 4X4 since I bought it new in 2001. I love it and drive it every day. We do however use the power to pull trailers. I am currious as to why you want such a big truck if you do not plan on using it? I the price of diesel here in Michigan is more that regular fuel most of the time. I do not understand this because they have to refine diesel before they turn it into regular fuel. It is a bunch of Michigan political b.s. if you ask me. Any way If you are only going to drive it 10K per year and do not plan on pulling anything I would not suggest an Excursion at all. If you just love the truck as I do then get the gas V-10. Good luck.......
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Re: Gas or Diesel. [pfteryl1]
by lance17
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May 02, 2009 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: pfteryl1 (May 02, 2009 9:52 am)
Im not totally sure of your question but the only place I've actually looked for diesel was last night and diesel was 50 cents higher. I was thinking gas for convenience but my buddy put into my head the diesel, his father and him both have diesel dodges and love them. I bought his old gas Dodge and he regretted that he didn't buy a diesel for the longevity of them. I'm just afraid of dealing with maintenance of diesel and finding an actual mechanic I can trust to work on diesel compared to gas. But supposedly the diesel would last longer than the gas one but if I figure I could get a gas one with 50k miles. I could drive it for a while before I move onto my next vehicle. But in the long run the diesel would probably last longer than the gas but I don't want to be dealing with any weird maintenance issues. The math we came up with was if you average 19mgp Diesel and 11mpg Gas and with Diesel being 50 cents more per gallon you would save on average $422 on gas. But where my friend lives in Nor CA the diesel is cheaper I live in Phx and i've only checked out one gas station so obviously the numbers will be off but that is a good basis number so in the long run the diesel the gas saved from the diesel would pay for it's price but maintenance?
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Re: Gas or Diesel. [fphilli1]
by lance17
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May 02, 2009 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: fphilli1 (May 02, 2009 10:13 am)
Thanks for the info. We have 5 people in our family with possible plans for more on the way and we drive an expedition and a dodge ram now but the expedition has no storage space whatsoever so I was looking at the Excursion to hopefully consolidate the truck and the expedition into one car. I don't like the look of the surburbans. I do like the newer version surburbans '07s and up and the new expedition EL but at the moment they are too expensive for us to afford. The Excursions are sweet looking and will hold the family and all our stuff for Camping and trips from Phx to Oklahoma but for day to day use my big concern is the gas to diesel engines for gpm and maintenance. How is the AC for Diesel's do they take a while to get going, with living in Phoenix the car will reach 120 degrees plus everyday for at least 3 months so I don't want to be waiting for the diesel to fire up to get the ac going. Can you remote start a diesel like a gas vehicle. That way the AC is already blowing before we get into it.
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Mpg 7.3 Diesel or 6.0 Diesel to V10 Gas or V8 Gas.
by lance17
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May 02, 2009 (2:25 pm)
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Could people post me their average mileage they get preferably not with towing taken into account and could you post what engine and the year you have as well and if it is a 4x2 or a 4x4. How much of a difference in power and MPG for the V8 to the V10 Gas engines. Thanks.
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Re: Mpg 7.3 Diesel or 6.0 Diesel to V10 Gas or V8 Gas. [lance17]
by readordie
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May 02, 2009 (10:17 pm)
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Replying to: lance17 (May 02, 2009 2:25 pm)
My 2005 Diesel 6.0 Power stroke get 19 to 20 MPG on the freeway if I keep it under 65 mph. In the city, I average 15.5 MPG. Love the car.
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Changing out the front brake pads
by readordie
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May 02, 2009 (10:20 pm)
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What is the trick to changing out the front pads? How do you get the 2 push pins to stay on the disks while installing the disks? Any suggestion will be tremendously appreciated.
Trying to save couple hundred dollars by doing it myself in this economic times.
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Re: Changing out the front brake pads [readordie]
by daddy818
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May 03, 2009 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: readordie (May 02, 2009 10:20 pm)
I think you must be referring to the "guide pins" (at least thats what I call them), these pins sit in bushings inside the caliper mounting brackets and once you've unbolted the caliper they should stay in place(the caliper bolts go through the caliper housing and screw into these pins correct??). Let me know if this is what you are talking about.
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Re: Mpg 7.3 Diesel or 6.0 Diesel to V10 Gas or V8 Gas. [lance17]
by twtcad
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May 05, 2009 (5:37 am)
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Replying to: lance17 (May 02, 2009 2:25 pm)
I have an '03 X w/ the 7.3l and 4x4. We rarely tow anything and we bought it for the diesel and 6 kids; yep every seat is full. Two car seats in the back row and two teenagers and we all fit comfortably! (5,6,10,11,14 & 16) We can all go to the grocery store and all the groceries can fit in the back. We just went to Vero Beach for the weekend and everything fit, no external storage! Now for week long trips we use one of those sears cargo carriers. But it is a real pain, we before the next big trip I will be getting one of those hitch mount storage boxes. (any suggestions?) One big advantage with the diesel is you can run Biodiesel or WVO (waist veggie oil) I personally run a blend of about 10-14 gal of diesel and the rest WVO and I get about the same mileage as straight diesel. Around town taking it easy I get around 13mpg and on a trip I get around 15mpg if I keep it around 70mph. Daily driving I get between 550 & 600 miles per tank, just depends on how much idling we do. If you do not need it, stay away from the 4x4.......it kills your mpg! But I love my truck and this is my first diesel and it is the first of many more. As a matter of fact, I'm looking for a f250 to replace my honda accord! This truck is way better than my previous suburban! Good Luck!
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Re: Mpg 7.3 Diesel or 6.0 Diesel to V10 Gas or V8 Gas. [readordie]
by lance17
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May 05, 2009 (5:51 am)
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Replying to: readordie (May 02, 2009 10:17 pm)
Thanks for the info. It's very much appreciated.
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Re: Mpg 7.3 Diesel or 6.0 Diesel to V10 Gas or V8 Gas. [twtcad]
by lance17
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May 05, 2009 (6:02 am)
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Replying to: twtcad (May 05, 2009 5:37 am)
twtcad. Awesome. Thanks for your post as well. With our expedition we bought one of those add on trailers to stick into our hitch as well. There not bad. We bought ours for like 80 bucks or something at Bass Pro Shops. Nothing is enclosed in it we bought a set of bungee chords to tie everything down we don't stack it very high but it gives a little more space. Be careful when you have it on and your not carrying anything. Had a lady ram us in the drive through and hit the trailer. It did fine since it was drive thru speeed, and she was in a car no less. I'm leaning towards a diesel for the mpg and the longevity of them. Thanks for the advice on the 4x4 as well. I'm thinking about bypassing that as well hopefully will get even better mileage.
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