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Re: Brake Me Up!!! [agoodwin] by heater1951
Apr 26, 2009 (5:41 pm)
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Replying to: agoodwin (Jan 20, 2005 7:47 pm)

i have a 2005 excursion with bad rotor..
i have been told by MANDERBACH FORD in temple PA
 
 you do not cut rotor, must be replaced.. so i did and still they warp
 now i wonder what they will do cause i am taking my excursion to an other dealer HMMMMMM care to bet ????? my excursion is diesel
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Re: Brake Me Up!!! [heater1951] by idgolfjunkie
Apr 26, 2009 (6:05 pm)
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Replying to: heater1951 (Apr 26, 2009 5:41 pm)

I've posted on this subject before and will be happy to do so again. I have a 2000 excursion (7.3) and had all the problems with brake cavetation that everyone else has. My brother in law owns a repair shop and he turned them a couple of times before they were too wore for more. So I bought a complete set of rotors and pads from a company on ebay for 299.00, had them installed NO MORE PROBLEM. They weren't cryogenically frozen to my knowledge, just drilled and slotted. I have not touched the brakes in over 50,000 miles, and the thing hasn't shimmied once. The problem appears to be that ford put 1/2 ton brakes on an 8000+ lb SUV (no wonder they need bailed out). Anyway that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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re: shuddering - to fphilli1,heater1951,idgolfjunkie by daddy818
Apr 26, 2009 (9:43 pm)
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Replying to: idgolfjunkie (Apr 26, 2009 6:05 pm)

fphilli1- thanks for stabilizer bar confirmation, as I think this is the cause of "thumping" I hear under front passenger floorboard at times, will replace bushings and hope sound goes away. Cannot afford "cryo" rotors(too expensive), what upgraded rotors and calipers did you put on? (I'm guessing you've had no problems since then) How long ago did you change them?? Thanx !!
heater1951- Please post what next dealer says/does. Thanx!!
idgolfjunkie- I've read your previous postings, seems "cryo" rotors work for some people but I cannot afford them, I've actually found slotted/dimple drilled for slightly less than stock ones from dealer(am only replacing fronts). Were your rotors drilled all the way through or "dimple" drilled ? Thanx !! I like to discuss/learn about this truck. Anyone know how to remove the stock radio/cd player, it looks like there are 2 small holes on each side of radio, does that have to do with removal ?? Thanks all for your postings and help, will check back once or twice a week for any replies, good luck to all and lets continue to help one another, thanks again
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re: shuddering - to fphilli1,heater1951,idgolfjunkie [daddy818] by fphilli1
Apr 27, 2009 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: daddy818 (Apr 26, 2009 9:43 pm)

Sorry this took so long to get back with you. I do not know what kind of upgraded rotors they put on but they seem to have done the trick. Time will tell as I only have about 9,000 on them with no issues. About the radio there is a special tool that you put into the holes and the radio comes right out. If you are thinking about new tones it might be just as cheap to go to Best Buy and have them install a whole system for you. Good luck......
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re: shuddering - to fphilli1,heater1951,idgolfjunkie [daddy818] by twtcad
Apr 27, 2009 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: daddy818 (Apr 26, 2009 9:43 pm)

re: rotors
 
I have an '03 Limited w/ 4x4 & 7.3l and I purchased mine with 45k+/- on it back in July of 2005. Within the first few months of owning it I replaced the rotors argumentatively not knowing about the warping issue, but because I know it was a big truck and I had warping issues on my Suburban. Both vehicles I had purchased a set of 4 slotted and dimpled rotors off ebay and have been extremely please. Both trucks had huge improvements in stopping, well that with good tires. I only ran Michelin's on the Suburban and on the Excursion except I'm trying the Toyo Open Country now and I am very please with them. Sorry, off topic......my X now has 120k on it w/ 75k on the new rotors and not one issue! At first I use Hawk pads, but now I'm using Raybestos heavy duty and I would not change a thing! I would not stress paying a fortune for rotors, I do not remember what I paid but they were very reasonable. If you buy off Ebay, just make sure you check out their feedback and make sure you get dimpled, not drilled thru. Drilling thru weekends the rotor and you do not want one to explode under the X's heavy weight while braking hard.
 
re: Radio......fphilli1 is correct, those 4 holes are for a 2 piece tool. If you Best Buy has competent installers have them do it. They did just fine installing an Alpine for me, but totally fubarred installed the Alpine Flip Down TV.............
 
Good Luck!
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Re: instrument cluster lights, belt squeal,brake parts [daddy818] by 45cal45
Apr 29, 2009 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: daddy818 (Mar 12, 2009 9:55 pm)

Break Pads
 
I have the same problem with my back breaks they shutter when I start to stop. Let me know if anyone answers.
 
 Thanks
Tom
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Re: instrument cluster lights, belt squeal,brake parts [45cal45] by daddy818
Apr 29, 2009 (7:41 pm)
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Replying to: 45cal45 (Apr 29, 2009 5:00 pm)

fphilli1,heater1951,idgolfjunkie,twtcad,45cal45-- I've decided to replace caliper mounting brackets first(very soon) and if I still have "shuddering" then I'll replace rotors w/ dimple-drilled/slotted rotors(because of everyone else's input on these), if shuddering stops I'll replace rotors next time I do brakes, but I will keep you all updated on results. Thank you all again for your input !! Now - regarding the radio removal question(attn: 45cal45), I am not replacing the radio,I am trying to get to the instrument cluster lights and I peeked at a manual at a parts store and the manual says there is a screw in the cavity that holds the radio on the bottom so you have to remove the radio to get to 1 screw so you can remove screw to get the front dash off(I thought that was a stupid place for FORD to hide a screw) but anyway, do I have to buy the tool (from dealer???)to remove the radio, to remove a screw, to remove the dash, to get to the instrument cluster lights ??? WOW, that was a long question huh? Thanks for all replies/help in advance,
PS- anyone ever have a tab from rear defroster grid come loose from the window??
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excursion shuddering/shimmying brakes by daddy818
May 01, 2009 (7:21 pm)
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Okay,discussed w/ the wife(her truck) and I'm now going to replace rotors first and see if the "shuddering" stops(if not the caliper brackets are next), have ordered the front set of "slotted/dimple-drilled" rotors from brakeperformance.com for $232 (+/-), has a lifetime warranty against warping, also comes w/ free set of semi-metallic pads and free shipping, at least for now. I'm going to install these next week and see if problem still exists. Two things- Anyone have input on brand and type(i.e.- ceramic or semi) of front brake pads seem to work best in comparison of ceramic and semi-metallic?? and in owners manual the torque for these lug nuts is supposed to be 100 ft/lbs, which I've gone by many times, but in my opinion it seems like they should be tighter !! Any input out there (about this and last few postings by me)?? Thanks for all input in advance!! I'll be checking daily for any replies, will keep all of you updated regarding results
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My excursion went up in flames by napablue
May 01, 2009 (8:22 pm)
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Y'all can do what you want. I'd unload the excursion. I went to Target one day, from inside smelled an electrical fire. When I went outside, the FD was foaming my excursion (and the suv next to mine). My excursion caught fire and burned to the ground. No kidding.
 
Seems there was a recall 2/08 when I was in california (live in texas). NEVER got the recall. result is they catch on fire (because of cruise control). The FD inspector told me that the week before a poor soul lost his house because the excursion caught fire hours after he'd parked it IN HIS GARAGE. HE LOST HIS HOUSE.
 
NO KIDDING. Unload the piece of junk before it burns your house down.
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Gas or Diesel. by lance17
May 02, 2009 (8:41 am)
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I'm contemplating buying an Excursion. I'm wondering the pro's and con's of purchasing an '05 Gas V10 with 50k miles to an '01 7.3L Diesel with 105k miles. I'm not to into Diesels but the better gas mileage is appealing. I'm more concerned about the overall maintenance of the Diesel to the Gas version. I don't do any towing so the towing power is of no relevance. I only drive about 10k miles a year so would it be more beneficial to get the gas one with 50k or the diesel one with 105k. Any opinions of longevity and maintenance of the gas to the diesel? Thanks.

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