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Re: 04 ford excursion deisel starting problem [midwestmoe] by fphilli1
Apr 06, 2009 (6:01 am)
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Replying to: midwestmoe (Apr 05, 2009 7:22 pm)

I have a 2001 7.3L 4X4 and have had two problems with starting. The crank position sensor was bad, (very common & Ford had a arecall for this issue) and I blew #30 fuse. I hope this helps.......
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Stabilizer bar(?) problem by daddy818
Apr 18, 2009 (12:07 pm)
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Posted message in March about "shuddering " brakes, I pulled them apart and every thing looks okay. Cleaned and put back together, shuddering still happens and might even be worse now. When I was checking out all the steering linkage to see if I can see a possible cause, I pulled on a long bar that is on the rear side of the front axle(I think its a stabilizer bar, can someone please confirm), the bar is about 1 3/4" to 2" in diameter, its straight section is about 3 feet long and its bent about 90(+) degrees at each end and the ends are about 1 foot long after the bend, the bar ends are attached to the bottom end of a connecting rod(?) on each side and the connecting rods are bolted through the frame at the top end. The straight section of the stabilizing bar is attached with 2 brackets that are on the back side of the leaf spring/axle brackets, there are bushings in the stabilizer bar brackets that I think may need replacing. I can move the bar back and forth by hand a little(1/4 - 1/2"+) and the bar moves up and down in the passenger side bushing(about 1/16"+/-) if you bounce the vehicle up and down by hand. Could this be causing the "shuddering"? and is it a stabilizer bar? and should the bar move like that? Vehicle is 2000 Limited,4 wd,V-10, gas engine. Thanks for your help in advance.
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Re: Stabilizer bar(?) problem [daddy818] by fphilli1
Apr 19, 2009 (6:42 am)
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Replying to: daddy818 (Apr 18, 2009 12:07 pm)

Daddy,
  Yes it is the front stab. bar. I have a 2001 Excursion with 140k on it. I have had the same brake problem twice. It is warped rotors. I have had them replaced twice. There is a lot of chatter on this web site about brake shudder and some guys swear that rotors that have been treated with cyrogenics ( liquid nitrogen) have fixed the issue. I have also heard it does not. I did put upgraded rotors, pads and front calipers on this time and I have the best brakes I have ever had since I got the truck new. Good luck.
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Re: Brake Me Up!!! [agoodwin] by heater1951
Apr 26, 2009 (5:41 pm)
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Replying to: agoodwin (Jan 20, 2005 7:47 pm)

i have a 2005 excursion with bad rotor..
i have been told by MANDERBACH FORD in temple PA
 
 you do not cut rotor, must be replaced.. so i did and still they warp
 now i wonder what they will do cause i am taking my excursion to an other dealer HMMMMMM care to bet ????? my excursion is diesel
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Re: Brake Me Up!!! [heater1951] by idgolfjunkie
Apr 26, 2009 (6:05 pm)
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Replying to: heater1951 (Apr 26, 2009 5:41 pm)

I've posted on this subject before and will be happy to do so again. I have a 2000 excursion (7.3) and had all the problems with brake cavetation that everyone else has. My brother in law owns a repair shop and he turned them a couple of times before they were too wore for more. So I bought a complete set of rotors and pads from a company on ebay for 299.00, had them installed NO MORE PROBLEM. They weren't cryogenically frozen to my knowledge, just drilled and slotted. I have not touched the brakes in over 50,000 miles, and the thing hasn't shimmied once. The problem appears to be that ford put 1/2 ton brakes on an 8000+ lb SUV (no wonder they need bailed out). Anyway that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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re: shuddering - to fphilli1,heater1951,idgolfjunkie by daddy818
Apr 26, 2009 (9:43 pm)
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Replying to: idgolfjunkie (Apr 26, 2009 6:05 pm)

fphilli1- thanks for stabilizer bar confirmation, as I think this is the cause of "thumping" I hear under front passenger floorboard at times, will replace bushings and hope sound goes away. Cannot afford "cryo" rotors(too expensive), what upgraded rotors and calipers did you put on? (I'm guessing you've had no problems since then) How long ago did you change them?? Thanx !!
heater1951- Please post what next dealer says/does. Thanx!!
idgolfjunkie- I've read your previous postings, seems "cryo" rotors work for some people but I cannot afford them, I've actually found slotted/dimple drilled for slightly less than stock ones from dealer(am only replacing fronts). Were your rotors drilled all the way through or "dimple" drilled ? Thanx !! I like to discuss/learn about this truck. Anyone know how to remove the stock radio/cd player, it looks like there are 2 small holes on each side of radio, does that have to do with removal ?? Thanks all for your postings and help, will check back once or twice a week for any replies, good luck to all and lets continue to help one another, thanks again
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re: shuddering - to fphilli1,heater1951,idgolfjunkie [daddy818] by fphilli1
Apr 27, 2009 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: daddy818 (Apr 26, 2009 9:43 pm)

Sorry this took so long to get back with you. I do not know what kind of upgraded rotors they put on but they seem to have done the trick. Time will tell as I only have about 9,000 on them with no issues. About the radio there is a special tool that you put into the holes and the radio comes right out. If you are thinking about new tones it might be just as cheap to go to Best Buy and have them install a whole system for you. Good luck......
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re: shuddering - to fphilli1,heater1951,idgolfjunkie [daddy818] by twtcad
Apr 27, 2009 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: daddy818 (Apr 26, 2009 9:43 pm)

re: rotors
 
I have an '03 Limited w/ 4x4 & 7.3l and I purchased mine with 45k+/- on it back in July of 2005. Within the first few months of owning it I replaced the rotors argumentatively not knowing about the warping issue, but because I know it was a big truck and I had warping issues on my Suburban. Both vehicles I had purchased a set of 4 slotted and dimpled rotors off ebay and have been extremely please. Both trucks had huge improvements in stopping, well that with good tires. I only ran Michelin's on the Suburban and on the Excursion except I'm trying the Toyo Open Country now and I am very please with them. Sorry, off topic......my X now has 120k on it w/ 75k on the new rotors and not one issue! At first I use Hawk pads, but now I'm using Raybestos heavy duty and I would not change a thing! I would not stress paying a fortune for rotors, I do not remember what I paid but they were very reasonable. If you buy off Ebay, just make sure you check out their feedback and make sure you get dimpled, not drilled thru. Drilling thru weekends the rotor and you do not want one to explode under the X's heavy weight while braking hard.
 
re: Radio......fphilli1 is correct, those 4 holes are for a 2 piece tool. If you Best Buy has competent installers have them do it. They did just fine installing an Alpine for me, but totally fubarred installed the Alpine Flip Down TV.............
 
Good Luck!
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Re: instrument cluster lights, belt squeal,brake parts [daddy818] by 45cal45
Apr 29, 2009 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: daddy818 (Mar 12, 2009 9:55 pm)

Break Pads
 
I have the same problem with my back breaks they shutter when I start to stop. Let me know if anyone answers.
 
 Thanks
Tom
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Re: instrument cluster lights, belt squeal,brake parts [45cal45] by daddy818
Apr 29, 2009 (7:41 pm)
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Replying to: 45cal45 (Apr 29, 2009 5:00 pm)

fphilli1,heater1951,idgolfjunkie,twtcad,45cal45-- I've decided to replace caliper mounting brackets first(very soon) and if I still have "shuddering" then I'll replace rotors w/ dimple-drilled/slotted rotors(because of everyone else's input on these), if shuddering stops I'll replace rotors next time I do brakes, but I will keep you all updated on results. Thank you all again for your input !! Now - regarding the radio removal question(attn: 45cal45), I am not replacing the radio,I am trying to get to the instrument cluster lights and I peeked at a manual at a parts store and the manual says there is a screw in the cavity that holds the radio on the bottom so you have to remove the radio to get to 1 screw so you can remove screw to get the front dash off(I thought that was a stupid place for FORD to hide a screw) but anyway, do I have to buy the tool (from dealer???)to remove the radio, to remove a screw, to remove the dash, to get to the instrument cluster lights ??? WOW, that was a long question huh? Thanks for all replies/help in advance,
PS- anyone ever have a tab from rear defroster grid come loose from the window??

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