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Re: brakes [dfc] by driveabeast
Oct 13, 2004 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: dfc (Sep 29, 2004 7:12 pm)

I have a 2003 4x4 6.0L Limited. The brakes started to warp in approximately 8,000 miles and I have had the rotors turned by a Ford dealership twice under warranty (after 12-15,000 miles each time). I went to three Dealerships and the first two said the rotors weren't covered, but a third covered them after I continued to discuss the issue with several of their advisors. They said they would cover the warped rotors under warranty, if the pads still had plenty of wear left on them.
 
Ford recommends that the rotors be turned on the vehicle, their brake lathe attaches to the caliber mounts.
 
I have also discussed this problem with an employee of a wholesale brake supply shop after I turned my rotors the first time. He happen to personally have an Excursion and was working with a couple other Excursion owners. They all had just replaced their rotors with an aftermarket rotor. There are high performance rotors such as the type with holes in them or the ones with slots on them. At his shop, they only carried the rotors with slots. I checked back with him recently after they have placed 10,000 or more miles on each vehicle. He reported that they were all very satisfied with the aftermarket rotors and that the Chief of a local Fire Department had just purchased some for each of his Excursion at his Department.
 
I also understand that Ford has made a number of improvements with their 2005 Ford Super Duty Trucks, including larger rotors and disc brakes. They have also improved the design and/or size of the frame, the leaf springs, suspension and steering to name a few.
 
I hope for new 2005 Excursion purchasers that the same changes were made to the Excursion!
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Brake Me Up!!! by agoodwin
Oct 26, 2004 (6:29 pm)
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I mentioned back a while about doing Cryogenics to my brake rotors. Excursion Owners site. I have done the process to bran new rotors from Ford and and had them installed just a few days ago. It seems that the more I drive them the better they get. Mabey It's my imagination, Mabey not? If they don't warp that will be the biggest test. The place that did my Croy-process (Cry-con) Offered to do the process for free. That is a straight up good person!! ($250.00) I'll will provide the service receipts from previous Excursions that I have had and they will start building a data base for the Excursions and see if the brakes start acting up again. I think this will solve the brake problem. I wonder if the F350's & F250's have had the same warping problem? I'll would be willing to bet on it. Gas mileage on the new Excursion V-10 (10.0 to the mile) with 4.30's ratio. Not as good as the 3.73's ratio (12.0 to the mile). But the thing has less than 3000 miles on it and still needs to break in a little more. Best one I have had yet. 2004, Eddie Bauer Package, White with Tan trim,all the options,rear sensor is very useful if you have a trailer and no one to guide you back, K&N cold air intake, BFG's & the coolest most useful thing is the preset adjustable peddles and seat position. I love it because my wife is short and I'm tall. So you get the picture. That's all for now.
                    C/ya Later Andrew
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Re: Brake Me Up!!! [agoodwin] by dfc
Dec 24, 2004 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: agoodwin (Oct 26, 2004 6:29 pm)

Help!! I've never towed or abused my 03 Excursion but had rotors turned at ~ 27,000 then had them replacd at 33,000...now with ~36,700 miles the rotors needed replaced again. Ford service told me they would not replace them under warranty (say I have driven the vehicle in such a manner to the void any warranty). Any advice out there to get ford to admit to a break problem on these vehicles??? Thanks.
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Re: Brake Me Up!!! [dfc] by agoodwin
Jan 20, 2005 (7:47 pm)
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Replying to: dfc (Dec 24, 2004 8:16 am)

Dear dfc:
Tell your Ford Service that the Brakes are not your problem. The problem is Ford put brakes on a 7200 Lb. vehicle, that are for a 1/2 ton truck. That is just my opinion. That's a lot of weight to be stopping and starting all the time. This causes the rotors to heat up and cool down and heat up and cool down. This is a uncontrolled annealing process which causes the rotors to warp. Some times you stop and the part of the rotor that is exposed to the open air rather than in the caliper, cools faster than the enclosed part of it remaining in the caliper. Uneven cooling the rotor starts it to become out of shape. When you Cyro them it takes the stress out of the rotor in a controlled environment. My brakes have never worked this good ever. This is my 3rd Excursion. Every Excursion had break problems I have owned. I don't think your the only one. By the way Ford has been advertising better breaking and 355 Hp on the V-10 Wonder where they got 55 HP's from and why did they address the breaks on the F-series Trucks if there was not an issue?
C/ya Later Andrew
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RE: Final resolution to clunk? [thebrewguy] by gwisdella
Feb 13, 2005 (6:04 pm)
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Replying to: thebrewguy (Jan 24, 2003 7:20 am)

I had a simular problem in a old Lincoln Town car and I spent alot of money on this problem until I found out what it was. If you have suspension parts that have to be torqued down, this could be the problem. If you have urathane bushings which I did have, in time they might have to be torqued down again. If you look at your passenger side--the back bushing of arm suspension, I believe it needs to be torque up. My old town car was at 400 lb of torque. Good luck!
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changing rear from 3.73 to 4.30 by n3qdz
Mar 01, 2005 (7:39 pm)
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I have a V10 with the standard 3.73 rear. Comming to find out that the 3.73 rear towing capacity is 9600lbs. The 4.30 will tow 11.000lbs. We are buying a travel trailer it should be around 10.500lbs.That won't work! I am thinking about changing the gears from 3.73 to 4.30. I am worried about even if it is rated (4.30) for 11.000lbs is it going to be too much for the V10. If anyone has had to do this or know anyone who has had to do this I would like to know. Looking forward to your posts
#24 of 423
door lock code by aimnhyr
Mar 01, 2005 (7:48 pm)
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does anyone know how to find out the door codes? I was told the dealer needs $100. to connect to computer to reset the numbers.
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Re: Brake Me Up!!! [agoodwin] by expat
Mar 06, 2005 (6:53 pm)
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Replying to: agoodwin (Jan 20, 2005 7:47 pm)

well well . It sucks I'm not the only one, I Have a ford Excursion (2000) With rotor problems 33.000 miles ,I had them changed Ford said it was my driving . I do trailer a lot so I let it go . But now 59.000 I had them done again At firestone and they completely messed it up . I now have shudder, squeeky and excessive dust. It also pulls to the left and right intermitenly. What the hell is going on .
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Rotor Warp by bruteforce
Mar 19, 2005 (4:59 pm)
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I have a 2000 Excursion 7.3L w/ 80000 miles and no rotor probs but I have to work at it. I was told to insure the lug nuts are always torqued to 165 lbs. EVERY time I've had work done that involves the tires I loosen all the lug nuts and torque them myself to EXACTLY 165 ft lbs and no rotor problems. I tow heavy trailers and drive frequently in the mountains with horrible grades. No, I can't explain it but it does seem to work.
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Re: whining noise from rear by fedupfordowner
Mar 20, 2005 (5:55 pm)
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Replying to: dfc (Dec 24, 2004 8:16 am)

I HAVE A 2000 EXCURSION, V10, 4X4, 4:30 GEARS W/LIMITED SLIP, AT ABOUT 20-30 MPH I NOTICE "WHINING NOISE", ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE FUEL PUMP THAT STAYS ON, NOISE DOESN'T GET LOUDER AS SPEED INCREASE'S REMAINS ABOUT SAME,......DRIVING ME NUTS, HELP

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