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2007 dodge.com teaser by punter1
Jan 17, 2007 (10:31 am)
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Dodge at least is now acknowledging the existence of the 2007 on its web site:
 
http://dodge.com/en/sprinter
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Re: 2007 dodge.com teaser [punter1] by fireguy
Jan 21, 2007 (3:41 pm)
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Replying to: punter1 (Jan 17, 2007 10:31 am)

They may be acknowledging the 2007, but the 2006 is still on the message. I tried, twice, to sign up for the e-mail notification of the new model, but no success. they did not like my information. Maybe I should have entered "more than 50 vehicles"
 
2003 140 SHC 2500
2005 158 SHC 2500
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Extra Keys by chad140
Jan 21, 2007 (4:15 pm)
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So whats the deal with getting extra keys?? I dont have power anything so its just a normal key right?? Or is it? I would hate to lose the one I have because it IS the only one I have at the moment. Thanks
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Re: Extra Keys [chad140] by larryccf
Jan 21, 2007 (7:41 pm)
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Replying to: chad140 (Jan 21, 2007 4:15 pm)

not an owner, but just drove one today and if your key is the folding key FOB thingee, then i believe it has an electronic transponder in it that in addition to the unusual key, the vehicle's brain box needs to confirm electronically to start and run the engine
 
and if it's like VW, the dealer has to reprogram all the keys at the same time, after going on the web , if you buy additional keys after deliver
with VW it ends up costing abourt $140 per key
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Re: 2007 dodge.com teaser [fireguy] by larryccf
Jan 21, 2007 (8:02 pm)
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Replying to: fireguy (Jan 21, 2007 3:41 pm)

i just got my email registration in successfully, with no issues so, you might retry
 
curious if anyone can tell me the ramifications of the new diesel version with catalytic converters
i know something about the lower sulfur content diesel fuel is supposed to be the criteria and MB had to make them complaint but is that fuel available and what if we run older style diesel fuel in the van - will it damage the catalytic converters?
 
thanks in advance
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Re: 2007 dodge.com teaser [larryccf] by altered3
Jan 22, 2007 (2:21 am)
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Replying to: larryccf (Jan 21, 2007 8:02 pm)

Fireguy
There are tow types of diesel engines, the old 5 cylinder has gone along with the autotrans.
The first engine is a 4 cylinder twin cam 4 valves per cylinder with a in line twin turbo assist.
The second engine is the V6 Gas and Diesel, the gas model is the first to come into the States, followed by the Diesel a little latter on, not a long wait.
The exhaust will use a particulate exhaust trap. for 2007 and part of 2008, unless there is a delay at the US end, The V6 has been redesigned top to bottom heavy duty for all fuel uses
Bio, and ULSD or a mix of the two, notification via Dodge is yet to come but they will run on B10 fuels. the injection system has been changes to accommodate the alternative fuels.
Mercedes-Benz Diesel engines are fully 50 state compliant" BUT" the fuel is not available to the required standards state-wide, this is why there are problems with the Sprinter, it's "POLITICS" if you use ULSD that is suspect?? to quality standards! Use an upper cylinder lubricant to clean the fuel prior to entering the injection system , the engine will take it, however it depends on the contamination levels of non compliance fuels entering your vehicles fuel supply from the pumps, and that is where the problems are occurring, in the mainstream , it's not an easy fix by any stretch of the imagination, Blutec will make it to the states in time be it blutec or Chrysler's Sun Diesel Engine Concept, different system! but it does the same job,the difference is the particulate system one is wet the other is dry so the problem has not been resolved , where it has in the European countries where most of the Sprinters reside, and they don't have any problems clocking a million K's about six hundred thousand miles before a head needs to be lifted for routine maintenance.
When you get them , Like the old Sprinter it's going to be a love hate relationship, you either like them or you don't
Fuel ratings are similar to what you already get on the old Sprinters 22 seems the average , where 25-6 is average in Europe and Australia, but the fuel is high quality ULSD , which allows for a better return on the MPG to a tank of fuel.
Fact and Myth, Damlier -Benz engines are compliant for euro 4 and for euro 5 over five ton commercial units using both the particulate exhaust system filter traps and for Blutec
 of which there is no distribution facility's in the US mainstream as of yet, it is available, but it's sent through a limited network of distribution, this will take at least three years to come on line, If The US choses to use this path to cut down on emissions.
Interesting thread below makes one think
 
http://autoengineer.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/2007-diesel-regulations-environment- al-irresponsibility/#comment-5
2007 Diesel Regulations - Environmental Irresponsibility? « Mostly Mechanical
 
Another source of invaluable information on the new Sprinter
http://www.sprinter-source.com/forum/index.php
Sprinter-Forum.com
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Re: Extra Keys [larryccf] by kenbaker
Jan 22, 2007 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: larryccf (Jan 21, 2007 7:41 pm)

even the "plain" keys have a transponder in them.
 
The "fob" key also has the door lock remote.
 
We have seen entries on the internet (ebay, also) that you can program for a third key if you have two already... but if you have just one key, then you HAVE to have it programmed by dealer/locksmith (additional programming for the remote door lock feature as well if you have that).
 
KenB
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Diesel price hike by 2000_valk
Jan 24, 2007 (6:08 pm)
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I hear people talking about a 5K hike in new vehicles with diesel engines! I picked up my 04 today with a fresh warranty paint job ( thanks to a budwiser truck hitting me ). and I thought the sprinter guy said it was ford and GM. He said the sprinter already meets the US guide lines. If true, does this mean our sprinters just went up in value. Tom
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Re: Buy new model in Europe, ship home?? [kenbaker] by larryccf
Jan 24, 2007 (8:45 pm)
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Replying to: kenbaker (Jul 06, 2006 5:31 am)

KenB - believe you have it reversed on the "hi discharge" - first if i recall correctly, the euro sprinters have the optional Bi-zenon hi discharge which burn in the 45-4700 Kelvin spectrum, are much much more focused (ergo the focusing lenses you see in the headlamp, with the bulb hidden behind it) and the light is focused like a lazor in a flat plane across the road ahead
visibility is much more enhanced - I have had them on 3 german cars now, purchased here in the US and bought the headlamp units in europe
 
both the intensity, focusing and the color (white) of the light all make visibility day/night difference between them and the headlights commonly available now on US spec vehicles
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well, after reading all 50 pages of messages I've rethought by larryccf
Jan 25, 2007 (9:36 pm)
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my decision to purchase a sprinter
drove one,, liked it, and assumed i could expect the quality i'd experienced in my MB cars, both build quality and support quality (i expected a downgrade in support quality but not the extent i've read about here)
 
think i'll wait a year or two to see if the reports re the new 2007 version indicate any change
i'll build a temporary camper for my toyota tundra double cab - if the japs can do it, why is it so difficult for, of all makers, MB or DC
 
it's a shame, as the sprinter really does offer possibilities other vans don't and i had looked forward to it - in case some think my expectations are too high, i was a dealership mechanic in the late 60s into the mid 70s (BMW/NISSAN/SAAB), and still have a lot of friends in the dealerships around town, from mechanics to svc managers
and the problems i've read about and the complete apparent failure on dealership tech support leaves me wondering where DC turned left when the rest of the market turned right
 
sorry for the negative post, but hopefully someone from DC or MB monitors these posts
 
wishing you guys many trouble free enjoyable miles

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