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Dodge Sprinter Cargo, Dodge Sprinter, Van
#892 of 1281 Re: OIL Change update... [nescosmo]
Oct 06, 2006 (7:41 am)
I thought you knew me better...
Oklahoma does not yet have ULSD, but we are getting the new '07 diesels from other truck and car lines (no Sprinters obviously). Our "trash LSD", as you call it, is OK from high-volume fuel stations, we avoid suspected low-volume locations. Being an area (OKLA.) that has lots of farm and oil-field activity, even the small towns have some pretty hih-volume dealers of diesel fuel.
My dad and I have both been using Power Service Diesel additive (white bottle/red lettering). His Ford 7+ liter diesel is getting 19+ MPG and runs better on the P.S. My Sprinter (19,000 miles) still gets 20 MPG all of the time, in or out of town. I discovered the Power Service web site and discovered that we should be using the P.S. Silver bottle (Diesel Kleen (Sp?)) because it has higher cetane boost and we don't need the anti-gelling until later in the fall.
I used the recommended Mobil 1 full synthetic 0W-40 meeting the MB 229.51 (exceeds 228.5 required for 2004 US Sprinter). It was exactly 1 quart low with 9 quarts (up to temp) after running to fill the filter that was changed of course. After the other quart was added, the level is full (SLIGHTLY down when cold, nowhere near 1/2 quart low reading). Hot, drained down, wiped off, inserted and left for 5 seconds, and then removed carefully... the level is full... never over. 0W-40 has the wide heat/cold range that will work in Oklahoma year round. I have not been able yet to find the downside to this oil that you expect, and a diesel engine oil is specifically NOT required by MB or DC.
I frankly cannot fathom an engine that would show 1/2 quart low until hot and then show full. To my mind, I would think that the engine would have to have an expansion capsule (like an altitude or temp. compensation bellows) in the pan to achieve such a huge volume change.
Van performance is good, great in traffic, loaded is slightly slower, running both A/C units is the biggest drain on power of all. Have not pulled trailer yet. Runs very smooth, not very much on the rattles diesel can be prone to.
Lookup the big Dodge dealer near Houston I think (Berry Dodge is the name), they sell the (Miller) dipstick service tool and the new clips to re-seal the transmission dip tube when you are finished checking (sometimes the parts are on Ebay). No one has yet admitted to selling a dipstick that you can leave in place.
Thinking of changing to AMSOIL certified to highest level of MB and european oil standards (including the C4+) as well as very low wear and boil-off much lower than most.
Also, the price is the same or less than Mobil-1. The AMSOIL will probably be 5-30 or 10-40, either is good for all but the very lowest temps I have ever seen growing up here in OK. The winters are warmer than when I was a kid.
#893 of 1281 Re: Starting to shop [trashboy]
Oct 06, 2006 (8:29 am)
You might be happier with the 2007.
Some reasons are: 3 liter V6 cdi with more power but not more fuel consumption ; keyless entry and slide ; electric sunroof ; Nav System ; Adaptive ESP ; The new one is being reviewed very favorably compared to the old one. Do not buy one until you can compare , which will be about 2 or 3 months.
#895 of 1281 Re: Starting to shop [nescosmo]
Oct 06, 2006 (10:42 am)
wow, I never thought about parking restrictions! I would be parking it on the street, like you stated. All the prices they have listed are $31K to $32K for the 118". I read that invoice is about $27.4K, so I need to get them down....
#896 of 1281 Re: Starting to shop [punter1]
Oct 06, 2006 (10:44 am)
Hmmmm, sounds nicer. I'm also on a budget though, and would rather pay $27-28K than sticker for a new one. I'll probably wait around to see the new ones anyway.
#897 of 1281 Re: OIL Change update... [kenbaker]
Oct 06, 2006 (10:40 pm)
KenB.... Thanks for the info. Here in florida 15w-40 year round is the perfect oil for the van and is a c+4 oil; my oil only turn black at around 5k, before that is golden brown. the oil level perhaps you think that i am exaggerating but with the 9 1/2 quart that i put it does that. I have a Jeep Liberty diesel and i use Rotella synthetic 5w-40 and it work very good. price is low in the 4 gal container. You could consider that.
#898 of 1281 Re: Starting to shop [trashboy]
Oct 07, 2006 (12:28 pm)
I read all this in August and bought my new 2500/140 inch hitop . It has 4200 miles now.
The problem is finding a dealer with inventory that has the desirable options. There is a bewildering array of standard stuff and options. There are dealer codes that for me became quite confusing.
I visited 2 dealers and learned the codes then I faxed my specs in dealer lingo to 5 dealers. It then became a matter of trade off to select the nearest to what I wanted.
It ended up that the dealer with closest to what I wanted had a behind the seat partition that I didn't need. He kicked it in for free so I could take it out. He also had the best price but that was because hed didn't include some stuff the others did.
I bought it over the phone, sight unseen with all the paper work including the financing and out of state registration via snail mail.
I am pretty well pleased. At 70 mph on constant interstate cruise I get 22-23 mpg.... never less than 22.
I couldn't get the windshield washer to work and assumed it was so sophisticated (mercedes ya know) I was not up to the task. I finally declared it defective. I took it to the selling dealer 100 miles away and learned he couldn't fix it..... no multifunction switch in stock. I took it back yesterday to learn that the new switch didn't fix the problem and the "sprinter technicnan" wasn't there and he was the only one really qualified to get into what must be a wiring problem.
I drive a lot and find that I'm not nearly as tired after 200 miles as with my Acura Integra. The driver compartment space is awesome.
#899 of 1281 Re: OIL Change update... [nescosmo]
Oct 10, 2006 (7:53 am)
Why Delo in one diesel and Rotella in the other?
Not sure whether you would exagerate or not... but you have to admit that 1/2 quart swing cold/hot in a motor is a lot of SWING.
I just thought of one possible quirk on my oil change... if the Mobil 1 bottles were short by just 5%, the diffence in 10 quarts would be 1/2 quart... could the bottles be short?
#900 of 1281 Re: 60 mph limit!? [bhmet]
Oct 10, 2006 (7:56 am)
any luck with fixing? turbo, air sensor, or other trouble codes? tire size troubles? Any update would be appreciated.
#901 of 1281 Mercedes chassis number
Oct 10, 2006 (11:04 am)
I have a 2005 140 Sprinter, where can I find the the European chassis number as built by Mercedes. I have a friend in Europe who will provide parts but he can't help with the Dodge VIN number. Thanks.