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Dodge Sprinter Cargo, Dodge Sprinter, Van
#828 of 1281 Re: side door rattling solution
Sep 05, 2006 (6:39 am)
i understand what you mean that car is built in germany and assembled here which increases the price and could reduce the quality but boo-hoo. would you be as understanding if you had to pay a contractor twice as much as the next guy to do job because he had to drive further to get to the jobsite and consequently couldn't produce the best quality work for the price? and i don't buy the no information/experience at the dealer bit because they're limited production... if the average sprinter cost $35K and they're selling 20,000 of them a year that makes over $70 million in gross sales annually... although that's small percentage of what dodge may sell a year they makes no excuse for them to not to respect they're product (and the F---ing $40,000 i spent on it!!!)
i'll be honest, my dodge dealer doesn't like me. i've brought my sprinter in 6 times to get various things fixed that shouldn't be breaking in the first two months: my seat adjustment broke twice, couldn't fix my door rattle on 6 attempts, lumbar seats failing after two weeks, the list goes on.... anyhow, while they're scratching their heads trying to fix my van for 4-6 hours, i'm not waiting like a docile hindu cow in the customer lounge am i... no,no,no! i wait for prospective sprinter buyers on the lot and try to help them understand what they're buying and give them the important info rather than listen to the saleman's big deep-tissue massage about the all new important buzz word: "fuel economy"... it's easy to assymilate the "too good to be true" phrase when it comes to this car if you ask me. the fact is that the salesman don't know anything about these specialty vehicles and neglect to mention very important stuff to prospective cargo van buyer like... speed control 83 mph (not so good on the two lane roads and big interstates with 75 mph limits), 15 inch load range E tires ($1000+++ set of tires anyone?), a cassete player in the base model (what other $40,000 car has tape player? so who has tapes!?! i heard in the passenger model you can get VHS system to go with it!!) and best of all the $500 service every 10,000 miles. by the way, my dealer told me that the first oil change was on them... "great!" i thought... hmm... little did i know that when it came time to do it they decided to give me just $19.95 off my first $500 oil and misc filter change. one must realize that there might be few folks out there that might buy one of these things for their own personal use but the majority of us use 'em for work similar to how one may have, over a hundred years ago, used a mule... to carry stuff!!! i just feel like i got snowed from day one and should have just bought a ford or chevy for half the price and at least i would've known what i could expect. it really urks me to know how much i'm paying for this "mule" when i compare it to say, my personal car. A high economy cargo van that actually "works" here in america is still a bit of a pipe dream if you ask me... that is, until toyota or nissan or mitsubishi get into the market here in the US.
i am however very greatful for this forum and the knowledgable folks in it. if it wasn't pooled information from other sprinter owners my dealer would haven't figured out that my trans fluid was low and it was causing a low speed grumble when cold... this could have cost me big in the future.
although my attitude may be rather negative about the van so far i do still like it a lot and i think the idea of it has potential to really be something great... i just wish i could've waited until that point to buy one.
by the way i bought it on june 6, 2006... does anyone think that could have made a difference (perhaps the devil is in my van?)
#829 of 1281 Re: side door rattling solution [punter1]
Sep 05, 2006 (6:45 am)
I guess you shouldn't be too sure about the downside of assembly or reassembly in the US... I have the passenger van which is built in Germany and shipped whole.
I have had some of the same rattles, the transmission vibration (most at 1,250 RPM and a little at 2,500 RPM), lumbar supports no good (still not fixed, bulb inflator falling apart, inside valve), transmission leak (o-rings), used 4 quarts of oil on the second oil change so far (8,000 miles).
And the dealer only has ONE (1) Sprinter tech. I am pretty sure that they did not use the promised Synthetic oil, and the regular oil change crew did the change, not the Sprinter tech (he was on vacation to Hawaii)... If any of you remember, my first oil change was free because of all the hassles I had just getting the transmission O-Rings fixed... I will do my own oil changes from now on.
Sep 05, 2006 (6:47 am)
Ken B, i just wiped off the grease which was on the pintles and wraped a small strip of duct tape around it. i realize it's irritating to have to fix such an expensive car with such a botch but at least it's out of sight and it'll make the noise go away. metal to metal contact is never a good thing on something that vibrates (like say... a big unibody van)i thought about removing them and dipping the pintle part in some rubberized tool handle dip. but i don't have the desire just yet. good luck!!!
#831 of 1281 Re: speedometer error spawning phoney mpg figures??? [methodvan]
Sep 05, 2006 (6:57 am)
GPS appears to confirm that the speedo is off for MPH. I have not remembered to gauge a known distance to the odometer to see if it is also off. On older cars, the two values were not linked to each other... but in a computerized odometer/speedometer I would expect the two values to be directly and accurately linked.
My van is about 3 MPH off at the top (82 MPH on speedo = 79 MPH on GPS). At least 2 MPH off at 45-55 MPH.
My intent is to drive a route with GPS totalling the miles and matching this to the odometer.
#832 of 1281 Re: door rattle [methodvan]
Sep 05, 2006 (9:28 am)
I had that problem on the rear. being an "old car" guy, I had already solved the problem on my '61 Chevy Corvair van; I went to the hardware store and bought a thin wall nylon bushing, basically a little cylinder, slit it open and put it on the door latch. It lasts longer than tape, but it will still wear out over time.
#833 of 1281 Re: speedometer error spawning phoney mpg figures??? [kenbaker]
Sep 05, 2006 (9:29 am)
My GPS shows about 68mph when odometer shows 70mph.
#834 of 1281 Re: speedometer error spawning phoney mpg figures??? [surlyoldbill]
Sep 05, 2006 (4:29 pm)
also my gps showed my speed 2 to 3 off but i did check mile markers and the mile reading was good. i checked for about 5 miles on interstate 95
#836 of 1281 Van on the Run
Sep 05, 2006 (10:13 pm)
I know all yours problem but it is better than ford. I do not trust dealer, i run my and i eat the problem, i change my oil etc. I go to the dealer only if i have to. my van runs ok considering the situation so guys just keep driving it until it died.
Sep 06, 2006 (11:17 pm)
I'm usually pretty good about this kind of thing, but I can't pick a good location to mount aftermarket speakers.
I have the SHC passenger model; with the thick headliner. The headliner would be the obvious place, but there isn't a big enough "flat" place to mount 6.5" speakers in it. I'm tempted to just put up some surface mount speakers, but I don't want them in a place where they will bonk people in the head. Maybe mounted under the first bench seat on the frame? I'm assuming the front doors are too thin to allow mounting speakers in them; I need 2" clearance. Any ideas or solutions?