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#385 of 1281 Just Bought Mine Tonight
Feb 06, 2006 (6:30 pm)
Well, I did the "fax attack" on 46 Dodge dealers from past Richmond, VA to past Baltimore, MD.
Of the 46 Dodge dealers, I received 11 bids from 9 Sprinter dealers, 18 Dodge dealers replied the didn't carry Sprinter, and the others didn't reply at all.
Of the 11 bids, the best one came from Montrose Dodge & Sprinter in Germantown, MD. The 2nd best came from Safford Dodge in Fredericksburg, VA.
I had a tough time deciding between the 2 dealers, but in the end it came down to who had the vehicle more suited for what I needed.
"Fax Attack" comes from Used Car Buying Tips. You simply fax all dealers with a request for a bid, and they compete against each other. You never need to talk to a sales person, and you never need to step foot into a dealership. A lot of stress gone, instantly.
It took about an hour to figure all the dealers I wanted to target, then about an hour to call them up and request the fax number for their New Vehicle Sales Department.
Then 20 minutes to compile a fax with what you want, and an hour to fax them all.
Then after a few days, I searched each non-responding dealer for an email address and emailed them the same thing.
Then after a day, re-fax explaining that we hadn't heard from them.
I probably spend a day's worth of faxing, emailing, responding to emails, etc. So I feel I shopped 9 different Sprinter dealers in a day.
In the end, this is what I got:
2006 Dodge Sprinter 140WB Regular Roof White.
Accessory Group (Front Passenger Handle, Front Reading/Map Lamps)
Comfort Seating Group (Luxury Bucket Driver's Seat, Manual Driver & Pass Lumbar Adjust, Front Passenger's Luxury Bucket Seat)
Maintenance Group ("Low Washer Fluid" Warning Lamp, Maintenance Monitoring Sys (ASSYST), Air Filter Restriction Indicator)
Power Convenience Group (Power Heated Mirrors, Keyless Entry, Power Windows, Power Locks)
2 Additional Keys
Additional Parabolic Mirrors
Rear Gray Fascia with Step Pad
and they are going to install an aftermarket hitch and wiring.
Total price (with destination and less hitch) $32,500.
I paid (with destination, hitch, 3% taxes, tags, fees, etc.) $32041.07.
I dealt with William at Montrose. I highly recommend him. The service was excellent and he answered all my emails I sent him quickly, and accurately. No high pressure. He knows what he's doing. I only spent an hour with paperwork at the dealership.
I couldn't take it home tonight, because the hitch wasn't on there yet, but he's going to be driving it down to me tomorrow (hopefully) after it's on.
As I was filling out the paperwork, I asked the guy doing the paperwork (not William) about Dodge and 2007 and he told me that the rumor is that Dodge is going to be making a bigger model.
I'd think it's getting wider.
#386 of 1281 Re: Diesel engines [tronno22556]
Feb 07, 2006 (8:20 am)
I've been off for a couple of surgeries and other family sicknesses...
This guy is spot-on for the reason as far as I can tell... Diesel is less VOLATILE than Gasoline and is dependent on the temperature rise due to compression (above 1500 Deg. F.) to ignite (when the glow plugs are off).
All engines run more efficiently as they run hotter (if they can run properly). A higher compression ratio makes this happen quite easily. The problem with many of them is that you start making nasty nitrogen compounds at the higher combustion temps as you incorporate nitrogen from the air into the exhaust product.
The diesel fuel has more energy per gallon than gasoline, but being less volatile, it doesn't release it quite as easily... cool cylinder walls and heads will make the process less efficient by causing some of the fuel to condense on the metal surfaces and either be wiped off by the cylinder rings (and partially be run off into the crankcase), or be purged by the action of the intake/exhaust cycle (polution, carbon, and other problems).
#387 of 1281 Re: Diesel engines [kenbaker]
Feb 07, 2006 (7:07 pm)
Sorry to hear about the surgeries and all. Hope all is well. The dealer had my van all day. Had the seat back replaced because of the broken lumbar inflator bag. Also they had to order me a rear shock, (leaking). Had a new air filter put in that was 48.00 for labor and parts. Are they hard to install? Took the van around to the paint dept. The manager looked at it. I told him that I was going out of warranty in 1600 miles and thought something was wrong with the paint. Getting a few rust spots on the paint. It sure doesn't seem to be very thick paint!!!. That I wanted to get it documented. Well he didn"t. My salesman gave me the number of the area rep on sprinters. Will let you know whats what. OH and by the way, They ordered the wrong seat Did not have an arm rest,,Duh. take care, Tom
#388 of 1281 Re: Just Bought Mine Tonight [tronno22556]
Feb 07, 2006 (7:12 pm)
Tronno, Fax attack sounds like a big time saver. I bet you are bummed you couldn't take it with you!. Sounds like a good deal. Let us know how you set it up for your family and shop. Tom
#389 of 1281 Re: Diesel engines / Bad Paint Job
Feb 08, 2006 (6:34 pm)
I posted a message awhile back, about #357 I think, reference bad paint and rust coming through. I have 04, silver van. At 20 months on the road noticed several rust spots down the right side, upon further inspection all sides of van had same issue, only the hood was still "good".
Went to dealer with 34800 miles on van, Body shop mgr said "good to go" as was under 3/36 warranty when he thought all I was talking about was fixing right side of van (must be a monetary threshold dealer needs factory authorization to exceed on warranty work.
Shop contacted regional bean counter who said they would be willing to chip in $2400 towards a $3800 total repaint (less the hood and roof). I pulled out warranty manual, states everything except tires are covered... Told body shop mgr to back-brief the dealer owner on situation. Owner called me 48hrs later, tried to sell me on the great initial offer, I did not back down. Told him how I was driving around a great "negative ad" for Dodge and how I already paid $890 on the invoice for a paint job... He contacted a new "bean counter" and the body shop mgr called me back 3 days later with factory auth to cover 100% of repair cost.
I had all sides, back, and area above front windshield repaint ed up to the drip rail, had 4 new wheels installed (they were rusting as well), had them rotate the tires seeing how they were already off, and 2 new rear light lense assemblies, as they were filled with dirt...
If any panels have damage on them, they are "out of warranty" window. I had hit a deer earlier, so had to pay for broken parts and paint repairs to left 1/4 panel myself.
Check your paint!! Seems factory white is the way to go in the future!
#390 of 1281 Re: Diesel engines / Bad Paint Job [sdkiefer]
Feb 09, 2006 (8:13 pm)
SDKIEFER, I need to call my regional been counter. I will use the same approach. This is really getting me mad. Yeh we paid extra for the paint. I have some bubbles. I wonder if other silver vans are the same. Will keep you informed, I have 1600 miles left on warranty. Tom
#391 of 1281 Re: Diesel engines / Bad Paint Job [2000_valk]
Feb 10, 2006 (5:36 pm)
Called the regional today. Told her the problem, A bigger wig will call me monday. She said she has heard the same thing about the silver problem. Will keep you up dated. 1450 miles and counting down Tom
#392 of 1281 Re: Diesel engines / Bad Paint Job [sdkiefer]
Feb 10, 2006 (6:10 pm)
Check your paint!! Seems factory white is the way to go in the future!
My dealer had a silver one for $1000 more than the white. I like white better and am so glad I went that route. Sorry to hear of your problems. I will keep an eye on the steel rims.
#393 of 1281 Re: Diesel engines / Bad Paint Job [gagrice]
Feb 13, 2006 (6:48 pm)
Ok, big wigs called the dealer who called me for an inspection. They washed it and he looked it over and saw a few areas of concern. It is in the hands of the big wigs again. My salesman told me that they have always had problems with the silver. Yes I would say that any color than silver is better. I can hardly wait to see it, six years down the road. Will keep you updated on the continuing saga of, As the stomach turns! Tom Oh, saw some rust on the wheels. Not much but for a year old!!
#394 of 1281 Sprinter horns
Feb 14, 2006 (2:08 pm)
Okay, I give up. How many horns is a Sprinter supposed to have? Mine has one, visible behind the grille on the passenger side. By itself this horn manages a one-note BEEP! that pales when competing with the smallest Kia. I've searched all over the engine compartment for another horn (that must be disconnected) without results. Is there another horn? Thanks.