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#1003 of 1281 Re: Sprinter Woes [kurt6]
Feb 21, 2007 (3:16 pm)
the Mercedes Spec (fully synthetic) ATF is not only from Mercedes, and is not always $22/qt (US $ that is). As MOPAR (DC parts brand) it is about $17 where I have seen the price. Berry Dodge sometimes has specials on it, so I presume that other Dodge dealers might as well. I think it is Berry Dodge that I have seen offer some products for the Sprinter on ebay.
I have already found in the internet, so you can find it too... the ATF is a Shell Oil Co. product. Other fully synthetic ATF is also commonly in spec for the Mercedes warranty and performance (always expensive compared to Mercon or Dexron, but not Mercedes expensive). Always look for the MB spec codes on ALL fluids (oil, ATF, radiator, differential lube, brake fluid, etc.)
Others have had good luck with the Shell product, not for non-speced ATF. AMSOIL fully synthetic ATF is also in spec and completely gauranteed, looking for a user of this product, please chime in if you are one.
You might note that, as ALTERED3 has mentioned, the MOBIL-1 0/W40 fully synthetic (carrying the correct MB spec code) is actually no longer rated for CI-4+, so it may not be in spec at this time. Other MOBIL-1 fully synthetic is sometimes in spec for both the MB codes and the CI-4+ rating.
AMSOIL motor oil is fully rated for all of the above, and is again guaranteed to about 20,000 mile oil change intervals (otherwise time limited, see their literature).
No, I am not an AMSOIL rep, but I use these referrences to show that at least one of the oil/ATF vendors out there will stand behind the product and meet the specs of the MB and DC companies.
What year is your Sprinter (pre 2004's had too many EGR problems for sure)? Wagon, Cargo, Motorhome, cab/chassis?
What Recall did you have (I had mine in for the transmission "O" rings problem prior to the rumored recall)?
I still have an outstanding service call to get the lumbar supports repaired (one bad bulb, the other might be the bladder). Probably will just let this go, I don't use them ever and I don't want the covers ripped off and put back on.
#1004 of 1281 Re: Sprinter Woes [kenbaker]
Feb 22, 2007 (4:23 am)
Just picked up on the thread re Mobil oil,M-1 0/w40 I'm not at the office so I can't check on the Mobil paperwork, However I thought I may have said Extra H/D there were two off one for a standard particle filter rated for 2007 US specifications and one for Bleutec which has been stalled at your end of the pond, long story so I wont go into it, there is a difference as it met the standards in both US and Europe for emission standards, it's a very hard oil to source in Australia as I can only purchase this from the Distributor direct it's not stocked at service outlets or any where else for that matter
Updating The Sprinter involved has done 33 Thousand Kilometers with the Original oil the lubricity has held under University testing testing, with very little carbon waste at the end of exhaust pipe the carbon waste is dry not oily fells like graphite in texture. the van still returns an average of 26+ miles to the gallon and has never broken down or given any troubles so I have no problems , yes I use and upper cylinder ignition improver Red-Line RL-2
I am fully aware of amsoils site and admit its the most informative site on the net has great products but no oil filters for the Sprinters pity as the micron rating is far lower than a standard Mercedes Filter rated at 30 micron which allows for more waste particularization's to enter the oil supply, which is why I have a dual electric in line twin oil filter system with the particle exhaust system installed last year on My 2005 Sprinter
Coincidentally the manual of Mercedes-Benz European version and Australian states oil changes between 20 to 30 thousand kilometers depending on use and on and off road conditions. I guess I have no Sprinter woes So its more of a good news Story, than a sorry tale. But them's the breaks
Cheers From Altered 3 along with Altered State and Altered Sprinter, depending on which site I'm looking at
PS If any one needs more information drop into this forum and have a look as a guest no flare on Edmund's site intended but any information that's worth looking at is worth chasing it solves many questions including the famous RSN Rumble.
#1005 of 1281 Coment to wrong writter.
Feb 23, 2007 (4:07 am)
Sorry meant KB not Kurt
#1006 of 1281 Re: Coment to wrong writter. [altered3]
Feb 23, 2007 (12:19 pm)
so I've joined Sprinter-Forum...
much different world to navigate, still trying to find RSN talk.
#1008 of 1281 altered3
Feb 23, 2007 (2:50 pm)
Please post price and website or other information regarding your aftermarket oil-filter-system.
#1009 of 1281 Re: Coment to wrong writter. [kenbaker]
Feb 25, 2007 (3:07 am)
The section I think your looking for falls under the Saddle Bearing Rumber strip! 'as there are two sections' that have references to the issue.
Mercedes has rectified this on all LWB base units and up to the super long units, now a two piece tail shaft running on bearings and saddles, to prevent the vibrations etc/
Much of it was due to the harmonic balancer in the section that ran rear or dual air-con.. key ways slipped , replaced with a modified two way key lock , this was an automatic upgrade with sprinters but not a recall.
Again fuel related issues with quality Diesel, did effect many other issues as well but we all know this now, if it wasn't transmissions! it was turbo leaks, fuel rails not delivering the fuel at required temp, which resulted in burnt valves , piston crowns o ring failures, fuel pump failure sensors in trans, this list goes on at least with four forums to choose from now this helps everyone as we all learn from it, even those who thought they had the answer! continues to learn from others experience and input
Saddle Bearings for Rumber Strip Noise - Sprinter-Forum.com
Fuel Rail alert for type 647 engines - Sprinter-Forum.com
#1010 of 1281 Re: altered3 [kurt6]
Feb 25, 2007 (3:42 am)
The dual oil filter system I was referring to, goes way back in this forum to last year.
It was a special custom made unit in-line using a standard 30 micron filter of Mercedes and a custom 15 micron filter made by Ryco the oil was changed after the 500 mile break in period and the Mobil one Devlac H.D extra 10/40 Synthetic oil was added the vehicle a MWB based vehicle was purchased in May 2005 From Mercedes in Austria, exported to Australia this vehicle has done moderate millage 33 thousand K'S plus and still runs the same oil, yes it gets topped up as it uses oil at the normal rate, but the vehicle has never failed it is tested by both the DOT and the University of Tasmania and as stated previously still holds lubricity values not warranting an oil change,
Added upper cylinder lubricants and transmission lubricants have been used also out side of Mercedes specifications , Mercedes oils are OK but better can be found, To clarify the mystery of KB not being able to source the oil I have used, is because it was from DC Chrysler for Mercedes section,Mercedes U.S uses this on the V6 Diesel that runs Blutec you do have a few in the states,this oil was not put into the Dodge section [Sprinters] of oils, because it was a new oil developed for the 2007 Model that you now have.
adding to the confusion this is an advanced oil meant for European specifications, where the Diesel fuels run B-10 using the new particle emission exhaust, which was also installed on the 2005 Sprinter, and there was one also for the Blutec that rated at 299.9 p/m, In the US ULSD is only just becoming available it is still not available in all destinations through out the USA as the US uses less than 3 percent diesel to Gasoline, and its still catching up with Europe and Australasia.
I hope that helps you Kurt.
Please find a few links you asked for, take the time to read them look at other comments from other folk as well as the other three forums that deal with Sprinters, you will find a common cause and a common solution to your problems of Sprinters woes.
Because they are a good vehicle, once you understand them, if you can learn from this, then you have the knowledge to argue a point with service reps,and it stops them dead in their tracks you get respect as a result.
Red Line Oil: Fuel Additives
Red Line Oil: Gear Lubricants
Anyone running alternative ATF fluid? Amsoil or other - Sprinter-Forum.com
#1012 of 1281 Re: altered3 [altered3]
Mar 01, 2007 (1:29 pm)
ULSD now in pumps at Flying-J travel plazas OKC, Oklahoma...