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Interior dimensions by ambull
May 20, 2002 (9:22 am)
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Logic1, I must have missed something - where are you finding '03 Saab 9-3 interior dimensions?
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Considering a 1999/2000, basic 9-3...... by soulpole
May 20, 2002 (10:42 am)
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four doors with AT. I test drove a 99 Passat 4, with an AT and the turbo lag off the start was deplorable. It was alright after that but the start off was unacceptable in Atlanta traffic. What can you guys tell me about the 9-3 base in regard to this?
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by logic1
May 20, 2002 (11:38 am)
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Ambul:
 
The Image Gallery portion of the link you posted earlier has a schemata with the new 9-3 dimensions in metric. If you go to the British Saab cite they have a similar metric schemata for the current 9-5. The new 9-3 will not be as big as the current 9-5 but is closer than the old 9-3.
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soulpole by logic1
May 20, 2002 (11:39 am)
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I like the current model 9-3, but could never get used to the torque steer. The forthcoming 9-3 reportedly has licked this problem, thus my renewed interest in the Saab.
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logic 1, torque steer... by soulpole
May 20, 2002 (12:39 pm)
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could you elaborate on the torque steer?
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by logic1
May 20, 2002 (1:01 pm)
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Sure -- with the caveat that I am not an engineer and have some difficulty explaining my experiences with mechanical things.
 
Current model 9-3s are light, but relatively powerful fwd cars. The rods which transmit the power from a FWD car engine to the front tires are not the same length (in most if not all fwd cars). This creates torque steer, a phenomena where the front pulls to the side of the shorter power outtake rod on acceleration. This tendency is exagerated in the current 9-3 owing to the fact that it is a light but high powered car.
 
This is not meant to be a complaint, per se, about the car. In fact, many Saab owners actually like the way the phenomena. I learned to drive on a rwd car and prefer oversteer (the back end sliding out in corners) to understeer.
 
Understeer can be modified to some extent. Supposedly the new design 9-3 will have far less than the current model.
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logic1 by dindak
May 21, 2002 (4:42 am)
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My old 3.1L Cavalier had a lot of torque steer, I know exactly what you mean and I didn't care for it either. Newer FWD cars with a lot of HP seem to generally have this problem solved.
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by logic1
May 21, 2002 (5:21 am)
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Yes. While the Dot-Com bust turned many off to computer technology, the real technology boom is finally starting to help improve things we use every day.
 
And I imagine the Cavalier with GM's larger engine must have had a lot of torque steer. Can't wait to see what Chevrolet does with the Delta platform.
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General by bigdaddycoats
May 22, 2002 (11:09 am)
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Saab claims that they have virtually eliminated torque steer on the new 9-3 by lowering the steering rack. Sweet if it works. So, the new 9-3 weighs about the same as the model it replaces, yet the new engines seem less powerful than the old ones? So how will performance be? Saab claims that the performance will be as good as before.
 
The 9-3 will have ESP, EBD, CBC, and TCS. The new Vectra GTS will also have these chassis systems. I wonder if the new Malibu will?
 
There is a "Linear Launch Packag" that includes "lower body color matching trim". Is the lower trim standard? If it is not body color is it black?
 
Give me your thoughts and as I said before, I can't wait to drive one.
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by wishnhigh1
May 22, 2002 (11:42 am)
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Yeah, but I want a viggen model with some nasty torque steer. Not everybody likes lemming cars, and for years, SAAB has catered to those people.
 
Not anymore:(

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