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Saab 9-3, Sedan
#3272 of 3350 Re: Reliability? [iburgess]
Dec 02, 2008 (8:43 pm)
We bought a 2006 9-3 Sportcombi Aero with all options except the roof rails. It is the fastest best performing car my wife and I have ever owned. She wanted a wagon and it had the 5 star IIHS crash test ratings. Consumer reports said run away based on availability but many people, here in fact, said not to put too much stock in CR. I now think these people were mistaken. It was late November/Early December 2006 so we got a fantastic deal. Negotiated via email. Previously we owned a 2000 Honda Accord EX-L that had no issues but regular maintenance and tires. My Mazda protege lasted 12+ years. My wife had 2 Nissans and the engine on both seized at 7 years.
I love driving the SAAB. No question. Great heated seats, powerful turbo, no turbo lag. Very tight stiff ride on the aero trim with those wheels and low profile. I feel every seem in the road and some of them feel painful to me but my wife simply thinks that's 'European'. Fuel economy with the turbo 6 cylinder is pretty poor, at least the way I drive it. The computer says we get around 18 mpg with mostly city driving.
Reliability. I know people hate to hear this but lots of little issues in 2 years. 3-5 months in a sensor failed (Or so they said) and the AC would not turn on. Then the Traction Control kept disengaging. This happened twice. It seems to be fixed now. The passenger front side window motor failed leaving the window half open at 20 months and had to be replaced. The hinge with a star shaped screw was loose on the passenger front door and made this load popping sound when opened and close. We could see it was loose. They fixed that. 2 months later it is not happening on the driver side front door.
I think the 9-5 has better visibility which is more important the older I get. Not sure I would buy one new as it has not been redesigned in many years and I think it is about to be refreshed.
Would I buy the SAAB again? I am not sure. I can not say definitely yes. I just read CR latest reviews a few weeks ago and I thought they had recommended the 9-3 at this time, either the 08 or 09 model. The CR review and predicted result on my 2006 was spot on. Maybe SAAB has resolved the issues I have had. Also I have had no major failures and everything has been under warranty. I guess I am not looking forward to being out of warranty on this car.
#3273 of 3350 Re: Reliability [iburgess]
Dec 03, 2008 (8:19 am)
Ooops, didn't see you already bought. OK, well for the next person who evaluates.....
#3274 of 3350 Re: Reliability [georgehughes35]
Dec 08, 2008 (7:32 am)
Thanks anyway. I too do not know how much attention to give CR, but they do now list the 9-3 as a recommended car. Thanks again. CHEERS!
#3275 of 3350 Re: Burning smell... [atfryar]
Jan 02, 2009 (10:42 am)
did you ever get an answer to your question? I've heard it may be the sludge build up in the turbo, or old oil, but I'm just now experiencing it myself on my 2007 9-3, and I'm curious.
#3276 of 3350 Re: Extra Oil Change [waterdr]
Jan 02, 2009 (2:26 pm)
I live in the west where we have "JiffyLube". They would not touch it. they have before, and gotten burned, because they did not have the rubber seal to replace on the filter, and they had customers reporting leaking problems. they also did not have a full synthetic oil, only a blend, and that is not recommended. I then went to "Oil Can Henry", and they have the know how, and the right oil, but they charged close to $100.00/change. My local dealer charges only $79.00. That's my experience. Personally, I change it myself every 5,000 miles now. I have to purchase the filter the dealer (no local stores have them), and I've found the best price for Mobil1 synthetic at Walmart, of all places, purchased in the 5 qt container.
#3277 of 3350 Re: 2007 Saab 93 rear brakes [andyv1]
Mar 26, 2009 (6:26 am)
I have 21k on my 2007 93 and was told the same things except I caught it before the rotors were blown so it' only going to cost me a little over $250 - called a couple other dealership and they said the same thing. Saab uses rear brakes first, so they wear out more quickly. It's odd, but then so is the Saab. The front brake pads were in fine shape, but new rear pads every 20k for a highway driver is crap and god only know what other crap is going to pop up. Good think I got a good deal on the car. Did you end up getting the work done at a dealership or take it elsewher
#3278 of 3350 Re: 2007 Saab 93 rear brakes [saab88]
Mar 26, 2009 (7:13 am)
That's strange that those rear brake issues have already happened on a 2007...when I joined these forums before puchasing a used 2006 9-3 Aero (with only 2,000 miles on it) in February, 2008, everyone was bitching about the rear brakes going out to quickly. It didn't deter me from taking the Swedish plunge though. I now only have 14,500 miles on my Aero, which is a little heavier than the four cylinder 9-3 and my brakes still have never had one issue. (Knock on wood). Most of my driving is stop and go driving around town too. I only hop on the interstate to get to the ski mountain...have you truly considered the way you drive?? I know you said it's mainly highway miles, but do slam on your brakes a lot? Do you have an auto or manual? Do you live or work in a congested area? If you have a stick, are you diligent about downshifting as much as possible? No offense, but with brake issues, the driver is often as much to blame as the manufacturer...all things considered, minor brake work isn't that bad for what the Saab offers overall. That car will last you 10-12 years if it's properly driven and cared for, no sweat. Even after all that GM has tried to infuse in the egineering...try owning an Audi or a Volvo and see what your cost of ownership is...there's a chance that Saab is going to go under because GM is dumping them by the end of this year, and the Swedish government just announced they do not intend to rescue the company. If you try to sell your car now, or trade it in, you'll get hosed in the market. You might as well pay for the repairs once a year, and continue to drive it in an optimal manner like I'm sure you already do. Saab uses very powerful brakes, on a relatively heavy car (because of its safety features), so the trade off for quick stops is fast brake wear. You can't have both. Yeah, it's a pain in the ass cleaning off all the brake dust constantly, but that's the price to pay for riding your brakes and stopping quickly.
If you claim your driving is all highway miles, than there's no reason why this vehicle won't last you a decade, and save your ass once or twice while you're distracted by your Blackberry. Suck it up, or take it up with GM-Saab itself if it continues to persist, and leverage the lemon law clause. Otherwise, your bitching provides no value to these discussions.
#3279 of 3350 Re: 2007 Saab 93 rear brakes [saab88]
Mar 26, 2009 (12:27 pm)
Find a well regarded foreign car repair shop in town and have them do your next brake job. They have access to various suppliers and will do the job for less.
#3280 of 3350 What is effect of Saab "bankruptcy" on resale values?
Mar 31, 2009 (8:04 pm)
I may have missed other discussion of this topic but what do folks think the whole Saab mess in Sweden and its separation from GM will have on resale values?
#3281 of 3350 Re: What is effect of Saab "bankruptcy" on resale values? [harmiclir]
Apr 01, 2009 (1:41 am)