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Reliability? by iburgess
Oct 26, 2008 (1:19 pm)
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Hi everyone. First time poster. I am considering buying a new 2008 Saab 9-3. About the only thing that's holding me back is the awful things I've read about a Saab's future reliability. Consumer reports and JD Powers aren't too generous of their ratings for past Saabs in this area either. Should I buy this car, my intention would be to keep it for 8 to 10 years, so reliability is a huge factor for me. I come from a history of driving Hondas and my reliability with the Honda's I’ve owned has been fantastic, save for my current one, which is actually an Acura and has had some issues. I thought the best place to get the true facts on reliability of Saabs would be from a bunch of people who actually own the vehicle, so your opinions on this matter would be much appreciated. Thanks a ton!
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Re: Reliability? [iburgess] by andyv1
Oct 26, 2008 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: iburgess (Oct 26, 2008 1:19 pm)

Buy a Honda.
I have a 2007 Saab 9-3. Before that I had a 1998 Saab 93. I had an issue later in the car life of my 98 and brought it to saab to get serviced. The Dealership made a big mistake and after months of dealing with General motors I was given $7500.00 off a Gm car, along with other discounts.. I was planing on purchasing a Saturn, but was told I could only buy a new Saab with the discounts.. So reluctantly I did. I thought with a 100,000 mile warranty it would be a good buy. It was not. So far I have purchased three new tires (perelli's). I was told the tires were under warranty, but because the (nail) hole was in the side of the tire it was not.. Not real sure, but because I had three issues with different tires I thought the problem was with the treads pulling the nail to the side.,(expensive). Also at about 25,000 miles my back brakes went out (I drive most highway, and never ride my breaks). Saab said this was "normal". When the breaks go out in the car, you also will need rotors as they go out simultaneously. It was over $500.00. (breaks are not under warranty). I know GM is having great sales right now on the Saab, but it is not worth it.. My father only drives hondas , his last one had over 100,000 miles.. Never had a problem..
Hope this helps..
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Re: Reliability? [iburgess] by andyv1
Oct 26, 2008 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: iburgess (Oct 26, 2008 1:19 pm)

Hi again..
Also had to take it in to get new speaker (went out) and my passenger side window came off the track (still a bit off when it rains).. If you do decide to go ahead and purchase, do not get the Grey interior, the interior doors are impossible to clean.. even a water drip shows...
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Re: Reliability? [iburgess] by nbond
Oct 26, 2008 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: iburgess (Oct 26, 2008 1:19 pm)

I have an 07 9-3 2.0t with 25k on it in my first year and mechanically, it is flawless. I have had some minor cosmetic issues, a squeaky window, a bad radio button, and I had to have one of my keys replaced, but other than that I am very satified. (all were fixed at no charge by the dealer) The gas mileage is better than what is stated on the sticker, I get 26 city 34 highway with premium and I still really enjoy driving the car. I have spoken to a few other people who own th same car and all have said that reliability is good. One person had an 03 and the other had an 05. I plan to keep it for the long haul, just bought a second set of wheels for snow tires and the factory roof rack for my skis this winter.
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Re: Reliability? [andyv1] by saablcp
Oct 27, 2008 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: andyv1 (Oct 26, 2008 2:52 pm)

Wow ...what well thought out advice! And from someone who has a clear disdain for using the spell check function! Your recommendation to buy a Honda is based on replacing three Pirelli tires that had sidewall damage due to running over nails or other road hazards? No radial tire to my knowledge can be properly repaired if there is sidewall damage and NO basic tire warranty(all of which are from the tire manufacturer...not the vehicle manufacturer)covers damage inflicted to the tire from things such as potholes or nails.Having a Honda would make no difference in this case.In regard to your brakes ..once again,with the exception of BMW no manufacturer warranties brakes.My advice to you is YOU should be driving a "transportation appliance" such as a Camry or Accord.
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Re: Gas mileage by saablcp
Oct 27, 2008 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: nbond (Oct 26, 2008 4:28 pm)

Apparently the E.P.A. opted to test all the Saab models with the sport mode engaged on the Automatic Transmissions.Net result was city and highway averages well below what the average driver can expect to acheive. My 2008 2.8L. V-6 Aero is rated at 15 m.p.g. city and 24 hwy.I never do worse than 20 on my morning commute (avg. 35 m.p.h.)and my last trip of over 100 miles was 31.3 at an avg.speed of 71 m.p.h.
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Re: Reliability? [saablcp] by andyv1
Oct 27, 2008 (12:54 pm)
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Replying to: saablcp (Oct 27, 2008 7:46 am)

I was replying to someone who wondered if he should buy a SAAB.. I understand my tire issue., I found it odd that this would happen on three separate occasions.. three different tires.. Also, the brakes going out so early.
I have been driving for over 25 years, (new cars). Never had problems like this. I also have many friends who drive SAABS, and everyone of them has complaints. Personally, I would buy a Honda before I ever bought a SAAB again..
Just giving my opinion... Thats all it is.
Was asked for advice and gave it.
Try not to take it personally...relax
It's not like you built it..cranky.
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Re: Reliability? [iburgess] by saabpinion
Nov 11, 2008 (2:29 pm)
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Replying to: iburgess (Oct 26, 2008 1:19 pm)

My honest opinion: Get the car because you enjoy driving it - not because you're looking for a cheap car to own. Look, reliability has gotten dramatically better for Saabs. Sure, you'll hear the occasional nightmare story about some catastrophic failure that nobody can seem to fix, or at least can seem to fix for less than several thousand dollars. But that's not the issue here. Saabs are very, very expensive to own - just in terms of maintaining them. Case in point. I, like other posters here, had to have my rear brakes repaired at 10,000 miles. Yup - you got that right. Rear brakes were spewing brake dust ever since I bought the car. I spent $600 to replace just the rear brakes - why? Because Saab has stringent requirements on rotor wear as well - necessitating that both usually be replaced simultaneously. Now, you could probably go to a place other than your local stealership to get them fixed for less - but it will still cost you. When I complained to GM customer service that the brakes should have been covered because of abnormally rapid wear, GM said "tough" - that's the price you pay for owning a Saab. So, I say to you - Caveat emptor.
 
Saabs also have another annoyances. Compared to other "luxury sport sedans," the Saab I've owned has a lot of rattles and hums from cheap plastic parts. It also has a lot of road noise because it is not as well insulated as other luxury cars (try a Lexus, for example).
 
That said - Saabs are fun to drive, and from a cost standpoint, are cheaper than other cars in their class - AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE. So - if you want to drive a very fun car that costs less, UP FRONT, than an Audi or BMW, this is a great choice. But if you do so, be prepared for outrageous repair costs on routine items - items that seem to wear a lot more quickly than in other cars - especially the damn brakes. The 3 year maintenance plan is supposed to deal with many of these issues, but in reality - does little to mitigate your costs. So be prepared.
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Re: 2007 Saab 93 rear brakes [andyv1] by mppaul2
Nov 11, 2008 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: andyv1 (Oct 14, 2008 2:28 pm)

I just had rear brake pads replaced on my 2007 9-3 Aero at 16,416 miles. $257.00 dollars later..but it is a fun car to drive...I still like it
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Re: Reliability? [saabpinion] by hydrasports
Nov 11, 2008 (6:49 pm)
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Replying to: saabpinion (Nov 11, 2008 2:29 pm)

I agree with you, fun to drive but other than the front seats a cheap interior with rattles. I have the 2.0T with the 5sp now over 35K still lots left on my brakes. The turbo 4 is the reason to buy this car; great little motor quick up to 90 mph with amazing gas mileage. Now if I could only get that "click" out of my suspension under warranty. I posted a message to the community? Does anyone know the fix?

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