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Re: [shihanb] by waterdr
Jul 19, 2008 (9:55 pm)
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Replying to: shihanb (Jun 29, 2008 6:36 am)

Before you get too hard on the Saab dealer, Saab requires that the rotors be replaced with new pads. This is common in many cars and in fact, when you have a performance car with softer brakes it is stupid to not replace the rotors when the pads are replaced. Performance pads are designed to seat with new rotors....they will fit like a glove as they get use. When you then replace the pads w/o the rotors, the car will not stop as well.
 
And BTW, you should not re-surface these rotors. They are soft and will be subject to warping quickly if you surface them. As a result, you will be back in for new pads and rotors most likely in a shorter period of time.
 
One more thing....rotors and brakes are a job that any guy should be able to do in your own driveway. Takes me about 30 minutes per axle and I buy all my brakes online (all Saab OE materials too). I am not a mechanic....just a regular guy. I think I pay around $180 for a set of rotors and pads online and ....$0 for labor. I can do front and rear for less then $400. The additional amount of work required to swap rotors once you are pulling pads is about 2 minutes. It is completely silly to not replace rotors and even sillier to re-surface them if you are pulling pads anyway.
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Re: Brake Pads on the 9-3 [shihanb] by shihanb
Jul 20, 2008 (7:03 am)
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Replying to: shihanb (Jul 14, 2008 7:08 am)

yes, i would not be too hard on the dealer. this is the dealer where the service guy locked the keys in the car requiring me to bring the second set down.
 
also the shift knob was popping out, so the service guy epoxied the knob back on - without first putting in the spring for the reverse lever.
 
and, of course, when replacing a faulty turn signal switch, accidentally causing a blockage in the a/c drain resulting in the passenger side wells turning into a swimming pool.
 
and i have replaced rotors and pads myself, but the ease of doing it depends a lot on the car and the age of the car (rusted screws). i have another car that requires special tooling to remove the rotors.
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Re: [bobbya] by bill_borger
Jul 21, 2008 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: bobbya (Jun 28, 2008 7:53 am)

Same story, only I have a 2006 93. At 15K miles, the rear brakes were shot. The rear wheels become covered with black brake dust in-between car washings while the front wheels are clean by comparison. My last car was an Audi A4 and the rear wheels never became black with brake dust, only the front wheels.
 
I asked the dealer what's up with this. His reply, this is normal for a 93. It seems like a flaw to me.
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Re: [bobbya] by cmwong
Jul 22, 2008 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: bobbya (Jun 28, 2008 7:53 am)

2006 Saab 93 2.0 Turbo. 17k miles
I was also shock to learn during a routine tire rotation that my rear brake pads are at limit. Front is ok. Also, I notice the rear wheels has lots of brake dust from day one.
Talk to B&B Saab in Santa Clara. They offer to replace the rear pads at cost and I accepted. Rotors still ok for now. Still, it is incredible that pads have such a short life.
 
 
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Re: Brake Pads on the 9-3 [shihanb] by waterdr
Jul 24, 2008 (6:37 pm)
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Replying to: shihanb (Jul 20, 2008 7:03 am)

If the dealer is THAT incompetent, then that is even a bigger reason to not have them touch your brakes.
 
Some brakes require unique tools, but they are easy to find and rusted bolts and stuck rotors are easily remedied. First, if you use silicon this does not happen. Second, a can a anti-cease will do wonders.
 
Hey look....someone griped about paying what dealers charge to do brakes. Either do them yourself, or pay someone and don't complain. Rotors and pads are basic stuff.
 
The hardest part with the Saab 93 is knowing if you have 11.2" or 11.9" rotors in the front. It can be a little confusing especially with the different models and wheel packages. I had to measure mine the first time.
 
As far as brake dust....I think all Saabs dust like crazy, but you really should see a lot more up front then in the rear. They use pretty soft materials and the fronts should be doing most of the work.
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Re: Transmission by cmagold35
Aug 01, 2008 (9:39 pm)
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Replying to: waterdr (Jul 24, 2008 6:37 pm)

Sorry to start a new line...but I am in desperate need of advice.
 
My 2004 Saab 9-3 ARC had the transmission go out at 54,000, which as you know is 4000 miles beyond the warranty. Cost on the repair is $3500. The first scheduled transmission SERVICE on this car is at 60,000 miles. I contacted Saab customer service and Saab corporate to request that they contribute to the repair. They refused. This is a clean, well taken care of Saab, with a good service record and driven with care. Any suggestions on how I could convince Saab to help pay for it? This is not a Yugo, the transmission should not go out on a $40,000 "luxury brand" vehicle with this amount of miles. Any similar experiences? Any thoughts?
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Re: Transmission [cmagold35] by shihanb
Aug 02, 2008 (4:22 am)
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Replying to: cmagold35 (Aug 01, 2008 9:39 pm)

i think what it comes down to is a) how much you like the car and b) what the book value is, based on condition and mileage.
 
GM was having that pay employee price discount, which may or may not still be active, that + the arc trade in would get you a nice 2008 at a reasonable price.
 
it is basically your call - love it or trade it.
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Re: Transmission [cmagold35] by shihanb
Aug 02, 2008 (4:25 am)
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Replying to: cmagold35 (Aug 01, 2008 9:39 pm)

one other possibility. my miata needed a new clutch and i got it from a transmission place (aamco) for half the price of what the dealer wanted. not to mention a bad seal they replaced for only twenty dollars while doing the job. get a quote from a transmission place.
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Re: Transmission [shihanb] by ponytrekker
Aug 02, 2008 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: shihanb (Aug 02, 2008 4:22 am)

Never mind. Nothing to see here.
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Re: [saablcp] by ponytrekker
Aug 02, 2008 (6:20 am)
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Replying to: saablcp (Jul 14, 2008 6:51 am)

>>Manufacturers have been trying to find the right composition for brake pads since the optimum material was banned,that being asbestos.
 
Check your facts. Asbestos isn't banned.

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