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Saab 9-3, Sedan
#3166 of 3350 Re: 2005 or 2006 9-3 Coupe--what's the deal? [swink]
Jan 05, 2008 (2:47 pm)
Your statement is 100% IMO about Saabs AND, they do make a lot of trips to the shop.
I bought mine at 22k miles 18 months ago. I have 50k on it now. Since I have had it, it has been to the shop 4 times for warranty work:
1 - Faded door handles
2 - Peeling interior trim
3 - Inop. sun roof
4 - Minror tranny issues
5 - Broken coil spring
6 - Two smog pumps
7 - Problems with radio
8 - Seat belt problems
Each time, the dealer has taken care of everything w/o issue. Saabs are nice cars....just be sure to have one with a warranty.
#3167 of 3350 Extra Oil Change
Jan 08, 2008 (10:58 am)
Anyone got an (extra) oil change before the 10k miles / 12 months (say, at like 3k or 5k miles)? Can anyone tell me if the extra oil change is necessary or good for the car?
I bought a brand new 9-3 in December 07 but noticed the car has been sitting on the lot since June 07. So I'm curious if an extra oil change is necessary since supposedly the car sat at the dealership for 6 months undriven (from June - December 07).
Jan 08, 2008 (6:44 pm)
The fact that the car sat for a while won't make a difference. I change mine in accordance with the manual and the cars service computer at 15k.
#3169 of 3350 Re: Extra Oil Change [gunrabbit]
Jan 09, 2008 (5:07 am)
My dealer, JMK Saab in Springfield, NJ, told me that it is completely unnecessary to change the oil any more frequently than once every 15,000 miles (when the service indicator light comes on.) JMK is the largest Saab dealer on the east coast, so they must know something about Saabs.
I have a 2005 9-3 Arc, which has essentially the same engine as the current 4-cylander 9-3.
#3170 of 3350 Re: Extra Oil Change [gormerod]
Jan 09, 2008 (9:03 am)
The fact that the dealer says there's no reason to change more often than every 15K doesn't mean much; they don't stand to lose if your car lasts less time than it might. In fact, they tend to gain.
What is true is that 15K oil changes will most likely get your car to 100K miles, by which point most people have already sold their car. On the other hand, a good modern engine with oil changes, say, every 6,000 miles may well last to 250K miles.
#3171 of 3350 Re: Extra Oil Change [dhanley]
Jan 10, 2008 (6:58 am)
Saab will only pay for the oil changes under their pre-paid maintenance programs in accordance with the 10k/or 12 mo. schedule.Any intermediate changes would be at the owners cost.In light of the fact that this would generate additional income for the service dept.,I think your skepticism regarding what this person was told by his dealer is questonable.
#3172 of 3350 Re: Extra Oil Change [saablcp]
Jan 10, 2008 (3:04 pm)
Hm. Are you suggesting that 2-3 extra oil changes would be a better profit maker than a new car? Especially considering that those extra oil changes might well be performed by a third party or by the owner themselves?
There's a definite pattern for service intervals to become longer when manufacturers pay for them, independent of actual improvements to the engine. And in the case of manufacturers dropping free service ( such as audi ) the service intervals have become shorter. Also, when service was free/factored into price audi engines had longer intervals than the mechanically identical VW engines.
#3173 of 3350 Re: Extra Oil Change [gunrabbit]
Jan 11, 2008 (5:09 am)
My dealer recommended getting it done at 5000 miles due to it being a new engine with possible metallic bits being in the oil. Since this in in line with what my father and father-in-law always told me, I'm going to get it done (at my expense since not part of normal service). It can't hurt.
#3174 of 3350 Re: Extra Oil Change [dhanley]
Jan 11, 2008 (7:12 am)
Interesting leap of logic......service manager is in cahoots with new car sales to get you into a new car every 100,000 miles instead of every 250,000 miles.In this day and age when leasing accounts for more than half of Saabs new car sales I think your basic premise is largely irrelevant.
#3175 of 3350 Re: Extra Oil Change [saablcp]
Jan 11, 2008 (8:39 am)
1) I never said anyone was in cahoots with anyone. I just said a single dealer owner might be biased a bit in his own interests.
2) You're making my argument for me. To paraphrase your argument: "50% of people lease, so who cares how long the car lasts?"