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Saab 9-3, Sedan
Nov 03, 2002 (5:30 pm)
I'd add the Cadillac CTS to that list as well. It is one very nice driving car. A bit more expensive than the 9-3 when you start adding options, but still less expensice than a 330 or well equipped A4.
Today's paper had an ad for the 9-3 and it said starting at $26,5xx or $359 a month lease. The lease details were 48 months and $1999 down. That is about what I'd be willing to put down(would prefer to keep it near $1500) and I would just do a 36 month lease so maybe what I'm willing to pay a month in a lease isn't that far off. If the dealer will do GMS pricing on the car then the lease should be very much in my range. A base Linear with the Touring package is really all I want. I can take or leave heated seats(my Intrigue has them and while nice when very cold, have survived before without them) and the more I think about it, I think the manual would be fun in a car like that. So Saab, equip me a 9-3 like that and do GMS pricing and you may have a customer.
Nov 03, 2002 (5:59 pm)
Sorry Oldsman, while I am impressed with the performance and engineering of the CTS, I think it is ugly...inside and out. I just couldn't go there.
The BMW is my 1st choice. If it was $30,000 and had a better reputation for reliability, it would be no contest.
Which is why I think the G35 Coupe or IS300 are my best bet. RWD, stylish, reliable, affordable, and performance on par with the BMW.
The front drivers are next on my list. I see them more as GT cars...a little soft around the edges. They're nice, but not quite what I want.
I am intrigued by the Saab because it offers European style and cachet, at the price of the Japanese cars. I have also heard that Saab's are terrific drivers cars, but in a different way than BMW. I suspect the 9-3 isn't quite the experience I'm looking for, but will reserve judgement until I've driven it.
The good news is, the Honda runs great so there's no hurry...
Nov 03, 2002 (7:51 pm)
The CTS is bold looking, but if you find it ugly in and out, then I can't imagine one finding much beauty in the G35 or IS300 either. I'm a bit intrigued(pardon the pun) at the 9-3 as well as I think it is a great looking sedan and seems to offer alot for the price. To me, it's a great stop-gap until the CTS gets more power and I can more easily afford it's 34K(as I would have it equipped) price. I'm hoping to get the time to stop off and test drive a 9-3 this week. I'm also hoping the dealer will get more in as other than the short lives blue one, they have had only one for the past two weeks.
Nov 04, 2002 (5:16 am)
No knocks on the CTS...it's a terrific car. But, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Let us know what you think of the 9-3. I probably won't get to see it for a couple of weeks yet.
Nov 04, 2002 (10:57 am)
Isn't there a Saab dealer in central Seattle?
Nov 04, 2002 (1:06 pm)
There is Carter VW/Saab at 5202 Leary Ave. NW. That is a somewhat north of the central business area though.
Is one of your relatives about to pull the plug on a new 9-3? I test drove one over the weekend and really liked it. I never thought I would like a 4 more than the one in my Miata. Saab really has the ecotec cooking!
#282 of 3350 0% 1st payment in 3 months. . .
Nov 04, 2002 (3:19 pm)
spent some interesting time at the dealer. most of the 9-3's until 12/02 will have launch, heated seats, touring package +/- sport (17" wheels). invoice at 2 sites for base, tour, heated seats, launch, 625 destination: 28623. msrp: 30610 (non metallic paint). dealer showed me an invoice which said 29615. Less saab loyalty (500) and a smaller discount (300). The lowest I could get with all included, taxes, new tags, all charges, for launch, heated seats, touring: 31777, (32215 metallic paint). IF you can swing the monthly payments, no money down, first payment in 3 months, 880/month x 36 months. no interest. own the car after 3 years. all maintenance done. leasing for 36/12k/2k down/450/month residual value 16,300. If purchased as above, and the car is sold after 3 years 34K miles over 13-14K, you come out ahead. (lease is around 4.5% APR)car should be worth alot more than that! GM's 0 percent 36 month may be the way to go, if you can swing the payments. . seems to have alot more value than leasing without a lease incentive from GM or Saab. . .
Nov 04, 2002 (5:21 pm)
If sales are soft and/or the economy stays slow, I wonder if GM will run the 0% for 60 months financing. I'm still tempted to do a lease because I don't have a large amount to put down and I don't want to be upside down if in two to three years I'm ready for something else. Still looking for a base Linear with Touring package and heated seats.
Nov 04, 2002 (6:31 pm)
I am looking for a convertible with a nice ride and decent power. I am 6'2" and 200 lbs and most seats feel too small to me in these convertibles. This is what I feel a luxury auto would have, is nice plush seats.
I am currently considering the Volvo C70 HT, Saab 9-3, Chrysler Sebring Limited and Toyota Solara. I cannot afford new, so I am looking at probly a one year old car. The BMW 3 series is not a possibility as it is a rear wheel drive car (which doesn't mix with snow and ice well).
I am subscribed to Edmunds town hall rooms in all 4 cars, but as I have read in this chat, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and choosing between these cars is very very difficult.
I have test drove a C70 and was not impressed with the ride (seemed to feel every bump in the road). Test drove the 9-3 today and rode better than the C70 but with the wheels lawsuit and auto. tranny issues, am unsure about the value of this car. For the money, it seems like a used Sebring Limited is a great deal, but I haven't driven it yet.
Any thoughts? Thanks in advance!
Nov 04, 2002 (8:40 pm)
For your purposes, it seems the Sebring is the best buy. It's affordable to buy and to keep up. It's probably going to be fairly reliable, but it will not have the prestige of the other two. It will probably ride well but handle poorly, so if you're just looking for a nice cruiser, it's the best choice.