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You are in the Saab 9-3
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Saab 9-3, Sedan
#1768 of 3350 RE: Does GM have an "A" plan by richn2
Jun 22, 2003 (11:30 am)
GM currently has GMS (option 1) for its employees and GM Supplier discount for select GM suppliers. GM reciently changed the way the discounts work. Because of fraud in the past, GM now requires the SSN of all persons trying to use GMS pricing. GMS does not apply to Saab and Saturn pricing though. The discounts on these makes is slightly less than GMS. For Saab, the employee discount is equal to the "dealer net" (Dealer Invoice amount less Dealer Reserve, Expense Reserve & less Supplemental Advertising (if applicable)). Because it is your nephew that is eligable for GMS, you are not currently eligable. Only persons living in the same household, parents, brothers/sisters, children, spouse, and in-laws are eligable for the GMS pricing. To find out specifics, your newphew should visit www.gmfamilyfirst.com and create an account. When your nephew wants to purchase or lease a car using GMS pricing, he will need to login to www.gmfamilyfirst.com and request an authorization number. If it is not for him, but an eligable family member, he will need to specify which member (a family member that has also created an account with GMFamilyFirst). Next, he will need to indicate the model year of the vechile he wishes to use GMS on (GMS pricing can only be used on 4 cars in the same model year per calendar year. ex: 4 1999's 4 2003's). He will then need to accept the program rules and guidelines. He will then recieve his authorization number which he will present to the dealer when he goes to either order his vechile or pick it out form stock. The dealer will verify his number. GMS is great because not only are you reciving the discounted price, but also dealers are required to give you all current incentives. Plus 9 out of 10 times there is always an extra GMS incentive.
#1769 of 3350 Clean Your Wheels
Jun 22, 2003 (3:25 pm)
A while back, Hungshy asked for ideas to clean up the brake dust on the wheels. I've tried several products that worked well on other cars but for some reason, did not touch the Saab brake dust. I went out and bought some little brushes that fit between the 10 spokes and spent a lot of aggravating time trying to clean those wheels. Then I discovered Eagle One All Wheel and Tire (comes in an orange spray bottle). Spray this stuff on, wait 30 seconds and hose off the dirt. This stuff really works! So, if you don't like your wheels looking BLACK, try this stuff.
#1770 of 3350 Thank you tgp1810
Jun 22, 2003 (4:19 pm)
So it seems like the bottom line is that I am not able to use the GM discount plan for 2 reasons:
1) I am his uncle and 2) it really does not apply to SAAB.
Just to make sure I read your one statement correctly:
The discounts on these makes is slightly less than GMS. For Saab, the employee discount is equal to the "dealer net" (Dealer Invoice amount less Dealer Reserve, Expense Reserve & less Supplemental Advertising (if applicable)).
That I should be able to receive discounts that would be close to what the GMS plan would be. The discounts you are referring to would that be the manufacture to dealer. Beside that discount if that is the one you are speaking about are there any other discounts that I could possibly secure.
I also would like to thank you for both your prompt response and valuable information. My goal is to hopefully reduce the overall cost of a SAAB ARC to something that I can afford.
#1771 of 3350 RE: Thank you tgp1810 by richn2
Jun 22, 2003 (5:05 pm)
No problem. You are correct, you will not be able to use the GMS discount because you are his uncle. The discounts I was refering to when talking about the Saab and Saturn makes are in fact employee discounts. For these two makes, employee pricing isn't as good as with Cadillac, Buick, Chevy, GMC, Hummer, etc. The employee discount on a fully loaded Arc is around $3500. As for general incentives, this month, Saab does have $2000 lease incentive on both the Arc and Vector models and I believe they are still offering the $2500, $3000, and $3500 cash back on the Linear, Arc, and Vector models (anyone know for sure?). If you are thinking about leasing a 9-3 Arc, the current money factor is 3.5% (.00146) and the residual is pretty good at 53% (36 months, 15000 miles/year).
Jun 22, 2003 (8:17 pm)
Yes, they are still offering the $2500,$3,000, and $3,500 (Linear, Arc, Vector), but I think it ends June 30, 2003. I am picking up a midnight blue Arc on Tuesday and a question just popped into my head and I can't get in touch with the dealer on a Sunday. Does the Arc automatically come with the 5 disc CD player? The one I test drove had it so I guess I just assumed they all did and forgot to ask. (oops) I got the touring package, moon roof, automatic, heated seats.
Jun 22, 2003 (8:25 pm)
Arc/Vector comes with single CD standard. The 6 disc changer is part of the touring paqckage. It's my only beef with their optioning, because it can be had with the driver's package on the Linear (which includes things most people would want), but only with the touring package (which has other things I didn't need) on the Arc/Vector
#1775 of 3350 Incentives
Jun 23, 2003 (10:32 am)
One more comment on this. Make sure that your employer is not considered to be a "GM Supplier." The list is amazingly long. I got a good deal (at the time, in December) doing this on a Linear, and in no way do I think of my company being a supplier.
Jun 24, 2003 (1:03 pm)
Thanks for suggestion. I will try it for sure.
also find out if I clean it more often. week after week then it's easier to cleaned than let it stay for a month. Thanks.
#1777 of 3350 New 9-3 Arc
Jun 25, 2003 (6:22 pm)
I've had my Arc for two weeks...got all the options except the sport wheel package (if you want that, why not get the Vector?) for about $31,400....I love the way the car handles, like it's glued to the road, and I don't think you can find comparable quality and features for under $34K with any other brand....But -- I have suffered the stalling problem twice, both times at a stop light when rapidly going from brake pedal to accelerator and back again [i.e. stop and go situation]....I called the dealer's service dept. The service guy said [I kid you not] that the car's computer needs to "learn" the proper idling speed (or something), and that I needed to turn the car on and let it idle for 10-15 minutes (without moving it) to overcome this problem; he said that's what they'd do if I brought the car in! I'm thinking (A) this sounds like complete BS, or (B) if this IS true, why wouldn't Saab perform this "learning" ritual before delivery? Then I e-mailed Saab to ask them about this "story." They said they'd contacted the dealer but couldn't find who'd given me that advice...and that the "Trionic" system -- I assume that's the computer -- does adapt somewhat, but shouldn't need to "learn" to idle; and that I should bring the car to the dealer if the problem persists. The car has stalled once since I tried the "learning" procedure, but it does seem to be running better as I get past 1000 miles, so maybe this is part of the engine break-in period for the 2.0T engine [on Arc and Vector]? I'm bringing the car in next week for 1-month service, and will report on this issue, as well as my other minor computer problems: a homelink transmitter that doesn't work and one key/remote feature ("comfort closing") that won't work....