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#1148 of 3342 Buying a 1999 Saab 9-3. Any advice?
Mar 22, 2003 (1:18 am)
I am in the process of buying a 1999 Saab 9-3 SE 4 door hatch back.
Anyone have advice of what to look out for mechanically and otherwise?
I remember in the 80's everyone talked about problems with turbo's and "Coking". Is this still an issue or has the problem been resolved?
Any advice for turbo owners?
Anyone who owns this car care to reply with likes/dislikes, etc?
I value all feedback. Thank you in advance and have a great day!
Mar 22, 2003 (1:24 am)
one thing I noticed on that invoice, thats not on the websites: advertising fees, which I understand because they vary according to dealer location, but, also.. dealer prep ($130). That doesn't show up on any website info.
Most websites qualify their quotes and mention that they may not have all regional charges, and prep charges too. The Saab advertising charge in the invoice varies from state to state. Some states don't have it. Seems that the prep fee is usually in there, though.
#1150 of 3342 2003-2004 Saab 9 3 Vector
Mar 22, 2003 (6:05 pm)
I presently have a MB 230, I plan on replacing it in 2004. So I have looked at several models of cars. I wanted to find a AWD model. I looked at the BMW, the MB,Audi,Volvo, sorry not Mazda, nice but not in the same league. Well to make a long story short I was going for the Volvo. I get a discount on Ford products. The dealer told me that I could do better if I take oversea delivery. He was so right, I could save thousands of dollars. So with this in mind I looked a Saab too. I drove a Saab ARC and I fell in love with this car. It has as much technology as my MB and less money too. So in September I am ordering my new 2004 Vector with everything on it. Saab will give me a check for $1000 for air fare to Sweden.
(Volvo 2 air fares.)Saab will pay for 1 or 2 night stay, ship the car back to the USA free. I save with the plane fair, the destination fee, and every thing but state taxes. The bottom line The Saab Vector list 37,800 I will pay 33,600 and no destination charges plus $1000 check. No hassle no bargining. Its Great and a great car. I CANT WAIT.
Mar 22, 2003 (10:45 pm)
Can you provide some details on Saab's overseas delivery program? Is there a website?
#1152 of 3342 Saab overseas
Mar 23, 2003 (12:11 pm)
Fedlawnman, If you go to the Saab site you will find a tab about the overseas delivery program. Also your local dealer should be able to help you.
#1153 of 3342 Overseas Delivery
Mar 23, 2003 (1:43 pm)
It is about $2,000 less than you'd pay here. But depending on where you pick it up and drop it off, the fees can range from $0 to $500 each time (once for pick-up and once for drop-off). Before you even pick the car up, it has to be paid for (in full). You can't use Saab or GM finance. Then, it takes 6-10 weeks for the car to get back here. And you're making payments on your car for that 6-10 weeks (maybe longer with the war going on). So in the end, you break even.
Only good if you plan on going over to Europe for a few months (or year) on business or whatever. I was going to do it, but ended up finding one here.
The cool part is you get a nice factory tour and what have you.
#1154 of 3342 Overseas Delivery.
Mar 23, 2003 (6:51 pm)
You forget to mention the $ 1000.00 Saab will give
you for your trip.
#1155 of 3342 2 vs 4 cyl turbo??
Mar 23, 2003 (7:11 pm)
Can someone clarify the differences in the turbos of the linear and Arc/Vector trims?
In speaking with the salesman, he said that the lower hp for the linear was the result of only applying the turbo to 2 of the 4 cylinders and that the Arc/Vector had turbo on all 4 cylinders. My expectation was that the difference was in turbo pressure (even the Saab literature calls them low and high pressure turbos). I'm not too knowledgeable about engines but it wouldn't do to have 2 cylinders with turbo and 2 with normal aspiration.
The line of questioning was related to whether the linear could be chipped down the road similar to what I've been reading about VW/Audi's.
Any help? Thanks.
Mar 23, 2003 (7:38 pm)
Unfortunately, one can't just chip the 9-3 Linear engine and get a 9-3 Vector/Arc. Please see post #1058 in this forum for explanation of the differences between the 2.0t and the 2.0T.
I doubt the 2-cylinder vs. 4-cylinder. The difference in power is accounted for the fact that they are different turbo units providing different levels of boost.
I'm sure there'll eventually be various upgrades available, but they'll fall short of simply having a bigger, higher-compression turbo.
Mar 23, 2003 (9:37 pm)
That's totally absurd. Your salesman knows nothing about these cars. There is no such thing as booting only two of the cylinders. Half the cylinders can't have a different compression ratio than the other half. If it were possible, it wouldn't make any sense.
The Garett turbo on the Linear puts out less boost than the Mitsubishi turbo used in the Arc and Vector. I don't recall what the exact figures are. But that isn't the only difference. I believe that the cylinder heads are different.
There is no way to convert the 2.0t to a 2.0T without changing some of the engine hardware. But the cost of doing that would likely be more than if you just bought an Arc or Vector to begin with.