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Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Hatchback, Sedan, Wagon
#417 of 886 Re: 4 people contemplating a Mercedes purchase [pepsivanilla]
Oct 17, 2005 (10:14 am)
I agree with you. Thank you for writing your message. Hopefully, others are able to find your posting before their purchase. My 2002, C240 has been in the shop at least 20 times (probably more, stopped counting at 20) and it continues to give me problems. You might get some negative response to your posting but you must know that you are correct. I have met three people recently who are having problems with their MB. Yes, that might not be a lot but their Mercedes (03's and 04) are newer than mine.
Yes, I know a lot of people might say that they know friends who are not having problems and that is fine. You can post your message. That said, many of us are experiencing problems on our new MB. Also, I can not speak for other automakers so please do not compare this posting with any.
Anyway Thank you for your posting lets hope that it does help someone.....
#418 of 886 Re: 4 people contemplating a Mercedes purchase [tony24]
Oct 17, 2005 (1:53 pm)
does your state have a lemon law? you might want to look into it.
#419 of 886 I don't have to ask my friends....
Oct 18, 2005 (2:24 pm)
Our '02 C240, produced in January of '02 in Bremen [about 18 months into production] has the following history:
-During our test drive, I noticed it needed a wheel alignment to correct pulling; this was accomplished in the first week, and the appt. to do it was part of the sales process.
-Because our car had been unsold for nearly 6 months, and spent some time on a dirt lot, the vent tube in the differential got plugged, causing a leak. This was remedied with one visit.
-During the most recent B service, I had them apply a TSB to our car that addressed bogus messages about ESP failures [the message appears, then is reset by an engine restart] - this was accomplished as part of the service visit.
-I had them replace one of the horns - it was sounding like a bleating calf.
You decide for yourselves what this means, if anything, in the context of this discussion. Let's just say our last Toyota Camry had just as many problems, with more time getting worked on.
There were lots of early production W203s that were hopeless cases. There were lots more with a history like ours, which I regard as pretty normal for a car this complex. And the driving experience is just about the best we have had - the only better car we've owned was our '98 E320 in terms of how it behaves out there in the real world.
I think the new Lexus IS is significant competition, but issues already bubbling to the surface on the new E90 BMW 3er suggest that you aren't going to be home-free there, either. I was all set to order the RWD version of the BMW 3er wagon [due in our market in the Spring], but not after I've been following the stories of some of the early adapters of the new 3er. If I do it at all, it probably won't be for at least another year, to allow them to deal with the same kinds of problems that seem to affect all of the German makes when a new model comes out.
#421 of 886 Re: "Board-Computer" [pheimes]
Oct 20, 2005 (6:28 am)
Yeah, the countdown starts when the car's computer is first activated at the factory.
The build date is shown on the data plate on the doorjamb.
After the first service, the computer will be reset and then go from there. The dealer might be willing to reset yours now, since 4k is awfully early to dump the oil, though an early oil change never hurts. Talk to the dealer service people and see what they say.
Our car has the FSS system, and it is programmed for 2 years, plus monitoring the oil quality based on usage. In other words, when MBUSA was paying, going 2 years was considered OK for a low-mileage user with mostly freeway miles; now that the customer is paying, it's a maximum of 1 year. What a surprise....
Oct 20, 2005 (6:35 am)
Thank You very much for your answer! I think I just go ahead with the service, getting ready for the winter.
#423 of 886 1999 C-230 Kompressor
Oct 20, 2005 (12:40 pm)
well, the honeymoon is over. after 130,000 miles in 6+ years, this car is showing more wear than either my Camry or Accord ever did with thousands more miles. And it didn't just happen. let's see...
2 or 3 dashboard lights went kablooey 3 years ago
airflow direction selector for heat/AC is stuck on one setting and can't be changed
AM radio reception is, and always has been, terrible
6-CD changer in trunk went belly up a year ago
front cup holder doesn't close
LCD readout on radio doesn't work; only bottom half of numbers visible
power headrests no longer work
power moonroof slides when I tilt it and tilts when I slide it
cruise control cuts off on a whim
low fuel warning light blinks even after vapor lock is checked and reseated
Inquired about getting some of the minor glitches fixed but was told by the dealer tech that it might not be worth it - said that fixing the cupholder alone could run $300. No thanks. I'll play out the string with this car and then go back to Japanese.
#424 of 886 Re: 1999 C-230 Kompressor [pjdonnelly]
Oct 22, 2005 (8:30 pm)
$300 for a cupholder? I think your dealer has lost their mind. I've replaced the one in my 97 202 for near nothing. My 97 has just turned 133,000 miles, and yes the water pump just failed. However, here is the growing list of problems on my Honda Accord that we've owned since 22k:
Seats squeak badly.
Excessive wind noise from all doors on the highway.
Axle shaft boots splitting again, and one is starting to click bad in turns.
UppleUpper joint boots are starting to split.
Motor mounts have lost their touch.(The electronic one is supposedly $400 +labor)
Transmission still shifts too hard.
Speedometer needle is starting to bounce at freeway speeds.
Brakes are still squeaking(dealer installed)
Right rear window regulator broke.
Steering wheel covering is seperating from the wheel itself.
Clear coat paint is beginning to flake off.
Cruise control stopped working years ago.
Left rear door actuator makes this mysterious ratchet/groan every time car is locked. This car only has 60k on it.
My fathers 02 Toyota starter went out at 40k( car just went out of warranty)
Cost: $550 for the part, two and half hours labor, plus towing.
My sister in-laws Toyota had the air bags deploy while parked, thank God she wasn't driving. And Toyota did not give a hoot! The dealer was absolutely useless, with the
service mangager failing to return a single phone call. Toyota corporate never returned calls and would transfer the call to some "pseudo" persons voice mail at every attempt to contact someone regarding this matter. It took six months for Toyota to admit there was a design flaw and to finally fix the car.(new control unit and air bags).
Back to my 97 202. It still drives like new, no wind noise, no road noise, and typical German road manners. This CANNOT be said about the Accord. It 's driving dynamics and above mentioned noises on the road leave a lot to be desired. Is it reliable? Well, if you mean that it doesn't leave me stranded, then yes(except for the ignition igniter problem that left the car not wanting to start). But is has required more than it's share of up-keep.
My 202 has also been very reliable(never stranded) and has had less maintenance work performed overall than the Accord.
This is why I went German again. Our 203 has been outstanding. It has had a total of 4 dealer visits in nearly two years. Once for it's scheduled A-service, and the rest was for 3 seperate tire repairs, all caused by nails. The dealer didn't even charge for repairing the tires.
#425 of 886 1year window for extended warranty running out
Oct 25, 2005 (3:01 pm)
I have a C230 and the 1 year mark is closing in. The 3rd party california "Insurance Policy" extended warranties scare me a bit with lack of coverage for this and that. Having said that the list price for the Mercedes is $3700. Seems a bit steep but 3 dealers have quoted the price and won't budge. Any luck??
#426 of 886 Re: 1year window for extended warranty running out [rcallahan]
Oct 27, 2005 (7:03 am)
For the official MBUSA extended warranty, start with a phone call or e-mail to the F & I manager at the dealership in Chico CA [Courtesy Motors??] - look it up on the MBUSA website. In the past, they have always been the low-price leader for the extended warranty. I too am leery of any 3rd party warranties - I'm sure some are OK, but have no basis for knowing which ones.