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#51 of 3616 I ordered my RX-8 by myrx8 Dec 27, 2002 (10:56 pm)
Hey guys, I placed an order a little while back for my rx-8, dealers around the country have been taking deposits for only a short time now and I will be recieving the car right away when it comes out in mid may or early june. However, if you were to call a dealer right now the waiting list is approaching 14 months. First year production is limited and second is only slghtly better. I have spoken with a ford rep who has driven the car, un-officially he said that he expects perfomance to be closer to 5.5sec to 60 and 14.0 in the 1/4, also as others have mentioned he agrees with the R&T article stating a price of $26,000 base and around $30,000 with leather and 18inch crome rims. I have checked with my dealer and he also agrees that loaded up you can get out the door under 30 or 31. But expect dealer "market adjustments" to reach as high as $10,000. Many dealers have voiced their intent to price a loaded rx-8 very similar to a loaded up 350z ( roughly $38,000) as performance will be almost identical, insurance will be far far less (4 doors),it actually has a comfortable backseat, and fuel economy will be around 30% better. Not to mention a loyal fallowing of previous rx-7 owners. The problem is that unless you have already ordered one, don't plan on driving one for at least another 6 months, and thats if you are willing to part with around $5,000 to purchase someones reservation, last week I saw a july reservation bidding at $3,800 on ebay with 2 days left on auction. I think this car is going to actually compete with real sports cars despite the fact that many people believe the rx-8 is not an adequate replacement for the rx-7. The only thing I think will hurt the car is the price, it will rise, just as the rx-7 did in the past and just as the 350z is going to for next year. Even so, I look forward to the return of the rotary.
#52 of 3616 by snaphook Dec 28, 2002 (4:32 am)
>>and fuel economy will be around 30% better   Better than the RX7 or the Z?   Also, for it to achieve those performance numbers you listed it is going to have to be pretty light, which is a good thing.   Even if I could get one now I wouldn't pay any dealer mark-up. I'm not that impatient. But I hope it turns out to be as popular as you say. It might increase the chances of Mazda offering a 2 door/2 seat version.
#53 of 3616 rotary more fuel efficient than a piston? by the_big_h Dec 28, 2002 (4:42 pm)
heresay!!!   I want my rotary gas guzzling and smoke spewing!!!!
#54 of 3616 by audia8q Dec 30, 2002 (11:16 am)
Got some official info today...   www.mazdarx-8.com is the official website and pricing will come active on Jan 8 2003. Also this is the day that dealers can accept pre-sale orders. The delivery schedule depends on when the car is ordered. They have pretty much told us that they expect the order bank to be filled by the end of March.   order in jan and expect deliv. june-aug feb----deliv july-sept march--deliv aug-oct.   If you order through this pre-sell program mazda will email the customer directly the status and progress of your order...they will also be sending pre-sell customers a number of 'surprise and delight' gifts from Mazda.
#55 of 3616 torque? by sunilb Dec 30, 2002 (1:55 pm)
Is anyone else concerned with the relative lack of torque in the RX-8? This would become even more apparent when one is carrying 3-4 people in the car. It seems a bit odd to me that Mazda would give the car so little torque and 4 doors.
#56 of 3616 torque on a NA rotary by the_big_h Dec 30, 2002 (2:10 pm)
is pretty much irrelevant, as by nature a rotary is rev-happy and spins up really fast, you'll be in the 5k+ range before you even notice it. Torque also builds up really fast and stays flat for the majority of the rev range.   I love rotaries
#57 of 3616 sunilb by snaphook Dec 31, 2002 (3:19 am)
You are not the only one who has commented on the apparant lack of torque. Someone posted that one of the auto mags (maybe C&D) does a test where they measure a cars acceleration from 5-60 by getting a rolling start and then stomping on the gas pedal. I would like to see how the RX-8 performs here. I personally would not be interested in having to rev the engine above 5k and then drop the clutch in order to achieve decent acceleration.
#58 of 3616 by audia8q Dec 31, 2002 (1:43 pm)
I think road and track had the RX8 on the cover a couple months ago along with a first drive article. The tester/writer gushed about the car like it was the second comming on wheels. I will get a chance to drive the car in a couple months. I can't wait. hopefully the car will meet my expectations....IF the magazine writer is on target we all will be happy
#59 of 3616 this is my point, by snaphook Dec 31, 2002 (3:35 pm)
if a car has a perceived torque deficiencey lets not try to hide it by touting its free revving spirit. Let's find an objective means to determine whether or not this might be a performance consideration.   I personally love the way the RX-8 looks and I would like to be equally enthusiatic about all it's other attributes. I would just like for the assessments to not be based too much upon a rotary fanatic's POV.
#60 of 3616 also by snaphook Jan 01, 2003 (3:55 am)
Peak torque and horsepower are achieved at 7500 and 8500 rpms respectively. I certainly hope that its power curve is relatively flat.

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