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Mazda RX-8, Coupe
#3374 of 3618 Re: End In Sight [trispec]
Jun 22, 2006 (6:39 am)
For those of us who are rotary enthusiasts it may be hard to believe, but there are cases where the RX-8 may not be the best car for you.
1. As with any manufacturer, any model (as seen on these forums), you can end up with a "lemon". I suspect the dealer competence factors into this as well.
2. The rotary engine and the RX-8 handling traits may conflict with some peoples abilites or habits. Signs of constant flooding, clutch wearout, etc. are a warning. It may be best to reconsider if it really is the car for you if this is seen.
3. The rotary engine is still not the most efficient design. You have to PAY to play.
From what I've seen there appear to be several types of "thought processes" resulting in purchase of an RX-8. There are those who want the performance and are willing to put up with "quirks" to get it. Then there are those who just want to look cool by driving an RX-8. For some it may be more reasonable to locate a "normal" car that just looks cool, rather than -being- cool and unique.
#3375 of 3618 Re: End In Sight [pathstar1]
Jun 22, 2006 (8:02 am)
Agreed. Owning an RX-8 takes some affirmative commitment to the RX-8 beyond the stereotypical consumer expectations largely based on traditional engine and car design.
Jun 24, 2006 (9:22 pm)
People just are too jaded and want a 4-wheeled appliance. The RX-8 is not really any different than, say, a motorcycle. See, 95% of motorcycles have carbs on them. And they require you to rev it up to get power. There's just nothing at the bottom-end of something like a Ninja 250. It requires you to rev it. And warm it up. And check the fluids. And so on.
But pathstar1 is correct - it's just not for everyone.
#3377 of 3618 Re: Feh [plekto]
Jun 25, 2006 (3:36 am)
People's pat responses to car discussions most often fall into MPG, torque/horse power, and engine size buckets. A car like the RX-8, which has numbers that don't fit in these three buckets nicely, gets constant criticism and tossed from consideration. MPG is so important these days, it's become a moral character issue NOT to be getting 30MPG.
Mazda does no marketing to counter these stereo typical perceptions either, but seems to rely completely on the positive reviews by the car and consumer magazines. Of course I always think, "Zoom, zoom, zoom" traces back to the old "Hummmmmmmm" ads of the original rotary marketing, back when my uncle drove a rotary Mazda wagon.
Mazda should punch up the RX-8 marketing along the lines of the "Tokyo Drifting" or the VOD cars pod casts. Compare a Porche and RX-8 flying along a mountain race way, both revving to 9000 RPM, diving into 1G hairpin turns, and hitting 90-100mph tree blurring speeds. The ad could end with, "The RX-8 is not a Porche, but for $50,000 less, the RX-8 sure drives like a Porche."
Jun 26, 2006 (7:05 am)
It doesn't drive like a Porsche.
A better comparison would be to see it smoking an Audi A4 or IS250, then point out that it's the best small sports sedan under $30K - plus it looks like a sportscar. Make a big deal of the rear doors in the ad, perhaps with two guys talking or something, like Chevy did when the first rear doors came out on extended cab pickups. They need to really push this fact - that the rear two doors are there, but are hidden for artistic purposes - to look more sporty - but that it still is a sedan.
Then they can whomp on the competition quite easily. I mean... Mercedes C230 with nothing on it or a fairly decently loaded RX-8? The IS250 doesn't have a hope in the world against it.
It's no sportscar. It just looks like one. OTOH, it is a fantastic small sedan.(I see four doors last I checked)
#3379 of 3618 Re: Well... [plekto]
Jun 26, 2006 (11:18 am)
I'll bet the RX-8 with the Speed package feels every bit as tight and hard as a Porche 911. OK, so $40,000 less then.
But any head to head with whoever or whatever and I'll bet the price/performance goes to the RX-8 big time; except may a WRX, but that thing is just so UUUUUGLY it doesn't count.
I'm gonna rig-up a Pod cast of my RX-8 AT running some Boston traffic rotories, with a bunch of camera shots of the tach revs, dyno stats and G-force lats. I wonder if Mazda is listening.
Is there a go G-force instrument for the dash that's not to costly?
#3380 of 3618 Re: Well... [trispec]
Jun 26, 2006 (2:29 pm)
Mazda advertises here...I'm sure someone is reading.
#3381 of 3618 Re: Mazda RX8 Specs [revhappy1]
Jun 27, 2006 (6:36 am)
How about fuel economy? Does the RX-8 get good mileage?
Jun 27, 2006 (7:01 am)
It's all relative. The engine develops a lot of power for its size, like a motorcycle engine. It also gobbles down fuel like a monster Harley or Hyabusa or simmilar - in relation to the ~40mpg 600CC streetbikes, that is.
20mpg highway is about what you get. It's tuned for speed and not at all for economy. Then again, when you compare it to a Mustang with the V8 or something simmilar, it's not so unreasonable.