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#2842 of 3618 Re: Manufacture date question. [trispec]
Aug 22, 2005 (4:34 pm)
Yeah, just stop by 128 to see the Silver, if you have time. I mean, it shouldn't hurt. Also, it gives you another dealer that you can talk to. They may be willing to bring the car in that the other two dealers aren't willing to bring in.
Mazdausa.com is showing 2005 RX-8 AT at Quirk Mazda (JM1FE17N350157032 vin) with appearance package & spoiler. You've probably seen that, though, perhaps one too many options.
As far as the car being brought in from the unknown location, perhaps you can offer to put down a fully refundable deposit, so that they can bring the car in. I mean, if you have a car that you know you want, with the color that you like, then the only reason that you would reject it is if there is something wrong, such as too many miles on it. Maybe if you tell the dealer that if he calls up the other dealership, finds out the miles on the other car (and if the miles are good), then you can put down the deposit, and will buy the car if there's nothing wrong with it.
*shrugs* It's a difficult situation, I don't envy you. Best of luck!
#2843 of 3618 Re: astral...i admit, a stick is not fun 100% of the time.. [lhess]
Aug 22, 2005 (4:37 pm)
lhess, I think you were responding to trispec there
I really want a stick. Traffic be darned [I drive to NYC about once a month too, so that will be extra tough: crazy drivers, must keep up heightened alertness, and sit in random traffic]
The RX-8 is a fine machine regardless of the tranny, though. 50/50 weight distribution, beautiful looks, quick and crisp steering response, direct-feeling brakes... trispec is going to be turning heads, or at least the surrounding heads in the slow lane
#2844 of 3618 Re: Manufacture date question. [astral]
Aug 23, 2005 (2:14 am)
Yep, saw the Silver RX-8 AT on line at 128 Mazda some time back, but the appearance pkg. just seems like a grand of pure fluff that would get broken off by curbs and road pot holes. Oh well.
As for deposits, I can't help thinking it's a slippery slope to give them money up front. How does one leave a refundable deposit in a fully legally enforceable manner when possession is nine tenths of the law? The dealer will refund the deposit ONLY if you buy from them (catch 22ism). Taking my lawyor to the dealership might work, but then my rule against useless fluff looks hypocritical at best.
#2845 of 3618 Re: Manufacture date question. [trispec]
Aug 23, 2005 (6:07 am)
BTW, some of my old messages got deleted as I was linking to other forums (didn't realize that was bad). Here's that link to the recall PDF (not a forum link), as that got lost in the shuffle.
I understand your concern about the deposits, and those are good questions you're asking.
Ok, then there's not much left to suggest, other than you should try Ira Mada and 128 Mazda, maybe the salespeople there will behave a little differently.
#2846 of 3618 astral....you are correct and my apologies....
Aug 23, 2005 (6:29 am)
got my wires crossed with all these names in our titles.
And, trispec, sorry to have misnamed you as well!!
#2847 of 3618 Re: Manufacture date question. [astral]
Aug 23, 2005 (8:20 am)
Yep. I think I've found the perfect dealership, small, very light touch, straight up on the pricing, kind of like my Saturn dealership experiences over the years. But I'm just going to need to wait a little bit for Boston Metro area inventory to turn on it's own. I'll watch MazdaUSA online, including the 800# list above and once I see the model I want, I'll jump on the horn with my dealer and work the deal that way. I don't mind some other dealer having the car, I just need to know that it's in the area and available to my dealer. Kind of crazy I know, but hey, I gotta do what I gotta do.
During the break-in period, RPM <4000 up to 1000 miles and RPM <6000 up to 2000 miles?
#2848 of 3618 General Info and Responses
Aug 23, 2005 (9:05 am)
Been reading a lot of questions about purchasing, and since I'm going through that this week (woohoo) I have a few answers perhaps... any actual owners, feel free to dispute! Just thought I'd pitch in with my new info as of this week.
- I finally decided on a Red with Touring, and there is only ONE from NC to Maine, but luckily its about 50 miles from me. I shoped around and found an honest dealer that is great to work with (esp since I have the S-plan!) My dealer is trading and going to get it for me so I can do business with him and not have to go get it myself. Go for this method if you found a good dealer that lacks your perfect 8 in stock. My dealer also requires a 10% deposit for the trouble and his own loss of inventory to trade and go get mine. He said they don't cash the checks unless I bail out. This is just fair business to me. Won't run the credit card if you choose to do it that way either. Then when I see it and take posession, they can use that check as a down payment or tear it up and move on. Don't hesitate just because of a deposit, this just lets them know you're serious for their troubles.
- I'm told the break-in is about 700 miles. I was instructed to be sure and red-line once a week after that. Not sure about RPM limits before then, I think its in the QRG in the glove box.
- Premium gas is NOT needed, though many reviews reccomend it for the "sports cars". RX8 can do well with mid-grade (though I thought mid-grade was just a marketing scam!) or regular... then treat it to a clean out with premium about once a month.
- The Mazda friend e-mail wasn't as helpful as I hoped... but my dealer was able to find mine exactly. I found the MazdaUsa site to be tricky in its searching and not as thorough as I hoped with finding cars up to 150 miles out.
Keep trying for the one you want, but realize with this late in the model year ya may have to settle for one thing or pay slightly more to get the basics of what you want (if it has more options than you wanted, for example).
Can't WAIT to get mine this week, best of luck! I'll try and post pics next week or so...
#2849 of 3618 Re: General Info and Responses [llbeanjeep]
Aug 23, 2005 (9:12 am)
whoo whoo! Awesome! Definitely post the pics!
For break-in period, I found these instructions from somewhere on the net:
Method #1 (from Mazda manual)
- First 600 miles: Drive at varying speeds road and engine speeds; avoid full throttle, rapid acceleration or kick-down of transmission. Do not use special “break-in” oils.
Method #2 (from Racing Beat)
- For the first 1000 miles (1609km) do not accelerate under full throttle, and do not exceed 4000 RPM.
- For miles 1000-2000 (3218km), expand the RPM upwards - but do not accelerate at full throttle.
- Over 2000 miles (3218km), full throttle and high RPM is acceptable.
Method #3 (Mazda manual + Japanese Rotary Mechanic’s Procedure)
- 0-600 miles (965.4km) Follow the Manual, but keep it under 4000 RPM
- 600-800 miles (1287.2km) Open it up a bit, vary accelerations and speed RPM < 5000 - 800-1000 miles Drive the car, enjoy it but still keep RPM < 6000 - 1000-1250 miles (2011km) Drive it as it's power curve intended it to be RPM < 7000 - 1250-1500 miles (2413.5km) Test the car frequently from RPM 6000-9000 in every gear
#2851 of 3618 Car shipment cycles and time frames
Aug 24, 2005 (10:27 am)
Folks earlier talked about October's production of the RX-8 2006s not arriving at dealers until December. But more specifically, do dealers have a tracking system that tells them which VINs have shipped and when certain VINs will arrive. Can customer track VINs that have shipped. I'd pay money for that actually.
Do dealers know and do they share with potential customers which models, colors, and configurations have been ordered for stock? How does one ask for this information?
It's always seemed to me that dealers try to keep all of this information under wraps as a negotiations tactic. Not that that's a bad thing (Seinfeld episode going off in my head).