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#2813 of 3618 Re: Specs [llbeanjeep]
Aug 18, 2005 (8:57 am)
You're making a great choice!
Be sure that if you're financing via Mazda North American Credit, that you do get that $1000 rebate. All rebates can be applied on top of S-Plan.
I'm not a fan of silver (everyone has silver), but the car still looks good
Don't give up on red. Search for more than 100 miles away. You can call (800) 639-1000 or e-mail friendatmazdamazdausa.com for a free service, where the reps will help you locate the car you want in your area, outside your area and anywhere in the country. Your dealer can order the car to be shipped (probably a $100 charge?) from another dealership. If you find a red one that's 200 miles away, why not pay $100 to have the classic sportscar color?
If you can wait, I would advise waiting a month or two until 2006s appear on the lots. Chances are that Mazda is going to up the incentives on the 2005s to get them cleared out. Last year, albeit part due to way too many 2004s still on the lots, Mazda was offering rebates to the tune of $2500-3500. That's $2500 under your S-Plan price. I'm hoping for the same or similar this fall. Of course, by waiting, you reduce the chances of getting a red 2005.
Also check out http://www.zoomzoomlive.com -- you may be able to really test drive (as in, pound on a track) the RX-8 before you buy (for free!). That's what I'm doing.
Aug 18, 2005 (10:02 am)
Very cool, thanks for all the info! I'll definitely keep looking for the red via your suggestion... tricky, tricky.
I see maybe one RX8 (regardless of color) a week on the road around here, but maybe I'm in a tough location for these things? (DC area, NoVa).
I HAVE to act before end of October due to screwy Jeep financing. Can't wait for the '06s. Boo. Also, I wanna sell mine before it reaches the death number of 80K miles.
Good to know the discounts apply on top of S-plan, there was some debate of that issue here yesterday and I never got an answer.
#2815 of 3618 Re: Hmmm [llbeanjeep]
Aug 18, 2005 (11:16 am)
Some dealers may refuse to apply the rebate on top of S-plan, but that's because they're being greedy and want to pocket it for themselves (assuming the car is financed via MNAC).
The point is essentially moot, as I can often negotiate the price at invoice or very close to it, and apply the rebate. So S-plan isn't much different: it's just a shortcut to the invoice price.
#2816 of 3618 astral...noticed you mentioned the rx8club forum...
Aug 18, 2005 (11:37 am)
fun place to hang out. Less watchdogs and hand-slapping over there. I'm really surprised you didn't get your post pulled here. I got one pulled just for mentioning that I had registered my car on the mazdaowner.com site - they said I was promoting a competing forum - it's not even a forum. blah blah blah.
PS my dealer in Charleston, WV did have 3 04 reds left (new, untitled), rather nicely equipped. I'll go back thru some of my posts to get the info on them....
#2817 of 3618 ok, i'm back....
Aug 18, 2005 (11:45 am)
over in rx8 - prices paid, buying exp...check out post number 776 by ME. the lesterraines.com website has no info other than hours and phone numbers, but since I'm not allowed to post that stuff, you can get it there. I've haven't talked to them in a while, but, my guess is that they still have at least one left. they have been really great to buy from (traded an eclipse and they are mitsu too) and i've had great service from them.
I wanted a yellow one and I finally got it. Go for the color you really want - it'll make you happier in the long run!!!!
#2818 of 3618 Re: winning blue is the best ;) [astral]
Aug 19, 2005 (8:09 am)
OK, regional biases, religeous convictions and politics aside, I'm trying to investigate why I want to drive an RX-8 vs. why someone else with better tuned driving skills might like driving an RX-8, in ANY particular urban grid lock or country road setting.
Absolute loves :
1) Love the smooth rev of the rotor engine RX-8. I owned a 1987 RX-7 and I've badly missed it.
2) Love the balanced sports car feel of the RX-8 with it's not to stiff suspension.
3) Love the look of the RX-8 because of the classic front end, and fender flares.
4) Love the 4 adult size seats, 4 door layout, that's not flat down on the ground.
5) Like the fact that the RX-8 AT base package has a softer suspension, and 16" rims which are much more compatible Boston's messed up trolley track embedded streets.
Don't care abouts :
1) Don't care about gas mileage.
2) Don't care about competitive driving on or off the track. Please pass me is my motto.
3) Don't believe driving in the snow and slush is enabled by the Sports Package's Lim. slip dif., TC and DSC. Can't always guarantee this obviously, but from what I've researched, and from what folks here and other forums have said, a) Good winter tires and rims generally trump Lim. slip dif., TC and DSC b) TC does not help if you are stuck c) Anti-Lock brakes are still standard and effective d) Nothing helps on ice slick'n roads so always drive to the conditions.
4) Strongly dislike the Xenonites of the other so why should I drive these blinding and expensive to replace lights.
Unresolvable issues until 2006 :
1) How does the 4 speed auto versus 6 speed auto compare if I'm just commuting on urban streets and cruising in coutry settings? I don't think I'll use the paddle or sport shifter options anyway!
2) Is there going to be a dark blue color like the X-Men version?
3) Will the current leather seats, which I think are cheapish, be upgraded and made a stand only option?
4) Will automatic air become an option?
Thanks for any help or comments.
#2819 of 3618 Re: winning blue is the best ;) [trispec]
Aug 19, 2005 (1:06 pm)
If you're not into "sport driving", and just want the looks and handling of the car, then there is no reason to wait for the 6 speed auto. You would likely get a better deal on a 4 speed once the 6 speed comes out, though you may not be able to find a car with the colour or other options you want.
Winning blue is available next year, as well as a kind of robins egg blue.
I think the Shinka has nicer leather than the "normal" leather seats. Otherwise, if you want good quality leather, take your car to a specialist upholsterer. In other words, buy the less expensive car without leather, and then spend half of the extra Mazda wants for leather on getting good quality leather from someone else. All the leather I have seen in cars is "leather seating areas" only. That is, the seat backs, front, and side bolsters are not leather, they are "genuine imitation leather". Only the centre panels are leather.
I haven't heard of any changes to the A/C. I have "automatic air" in my Pathfinder and I don't like it. I have less control of the thing re fan speed, whether air is on or not, etc. It works just fine, the problem is I'm not operating it, and I don't like that.
#2820 of 3618 Re: winning blue is the best ;) [pathstar1]
Aug 19, 2005 (2:03 pm)
Thanks very much for your comments. I'd love to be able to hang onto my money until some RX-8 AT 4 speed and 6 speed are on the dealer lots at the same time. But since White and Black seem to be the only acceptable colors for my wife, the base no pkg. model will probably be few and far between sooner that the 2006 models physical arrival.
Oh well. wish me luck.
#2821 of 3618 Re: winning blue is the best ;) [trispec]
Aug 20, 2005 (7:33 am)
not much changes for 2006
1) 6-speed auto would be zippier, for two reasons: a) will probably be in a better gear to put you into more appropriate revs for the desired power output, b) higher power engine on the new 6-speed auto. for you, it seems that power doesn't matter, so really not much of a good reason to pick the 6-speed auto over the current 4-speed
2) there will be a darker blue called phantom blue. also galaxy gray, copper red. titanium gray and nordic green are dropped for 2006.
3) non-shinka RX8s keep the same type of leather. no packaging changes (so not a standalone option). 2006 shinka gets new leather/alcantra seating, which may be fancier/better?
so basically, unless the phantom blue color appeals to you, get a 2005 AT.
as far as winter driving goes, winter tires are key, but DSC really does keep your tail in check. of course, if you don't push it, and drive conseratively, then you'll be just fine on winter tires. limited slip diff is key for getting off the line or up the hill, but it doesn't help for braking and turning. i have an open diff car with winter tires, and i have great highway stability, cornering and braking, but it's easier to get stuck because i get "one wheel drive" at slow speeds.
once you drive with xenons, you won't switch back. plus, proper factory xenons (instead of aftermarket lookalike hacks) like on the bmws and audis and other higher-end cars are not really more blinding and have an auto-leveling feature (just like rx8's). but hey, if you never drive with xenons, then you're still a happy man
so 2005 AT when 2006's come out (so you can get more rebates), a great set of winter tires (off tirerack) and you're set
#2822 of 3618 Re: winning blue is the best ;) [astral]
Aug 20, 2005 (4:05 pm)
Many thanks. The information on the Phantom Blue is new to me at least. I tried to look up what Phantom Blue might look like via Google. The samples appeared to be a dark blue with a bit of purple. Looks like my acceptable color choices are now White, Black, and Silver for 2005 and add Phantom Blue for 2006.
Question about the seats just popped up. Do the power seats crank down lower than the manual seats? In other words, do the power seats compensate for the loss of head room taken by the moon roof. My dealer said the moon roof kills 2 inches of head room, which is very important to my 6' 2" frame.