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Mazda RX-8, Coupe
#2749 of 3618 Re: Considering buying an RX-8 [mthmsim]
Aug 03, 2005 (8:58 am)
I paid $30k even for my 2005 S including destination and dealer fees - so much for they "will not deal on the S2000"
If you are willing to fly down and drive back there are dealers in KY and GA that will make you a similar deal (assuming they still have cars). I bet you could find a dealer in the MA area that would deal, though. What about Boch Honda in Norwood? Aren't they the (self proclaimed?) "largest Honda dealer" ? Their web page shows 7 S2000s in stock.
An RX-8 with touring would invoice right at $28k - so if you purchased it at invoice it would be just $2k less. Currently there IS a $1k MAC incentive so if you finance with MAC and purchased at invoice it would be $27k. To be fair (apples to apples) if you compare an 8 with leather seats the difference would be less - the invoice on a GT is just over $29k - or $28k with the rebate. At times the required MAC financing can be at a really high rate, but you can always take the rebate then refinance the car later
So right now, the difference between the two cars is not that much. Of course, I paid about $600 under invoice for my 8 - which would make the difference a little more
Sure, if you wait Mazda will almost be sure to put larger incentives on the 05 8s to move them out. The peak on the 04s was $3,250 (varied by region) before they just gave the dealers $4k off the top with no MAC financing strings attached.
Any fixed roof car is likely going to be safer in a crash than a drop top - extra air bags or not. The Bose stereo in the 8 is a LIABILITY rather than a bonus. The S has a standard DIN sized stereo and standard sized speakers. I spent about the same for the accessory MP3 player for the 8 (replaces the single disc CD with a MP3/CD player) as I did for the high end Pioneer stereo CD/MP3 player I put in the S. I then had to spend another $90 or so to add an aux in to the stereo in the 8 for my XM radio - on the Pioneer stereo in the S this was a $20 cable.
With the 8 you can't easily replace anything - the stereo, the speakers, etc. With the S you can.
I think the 8 looks "richer" (with a leather interior) than the S both inside and out. I have the optional NAV in the 8 and I love it (but it is expensive) - this is not available in the S.
Not counting the oil, if you drove 12k in a year paying $2.50 a gallon for premium (required in both cars) it would take 800 gallons in an 8 at 15mpg and cost $2000.00. In an S it would take 522 gallons at 23mpg and cost $1,305. So you would save back nearly $700 of the extra you paid for the S in the first year. That assumes those mileage figures (which is what I currently get commuting to work), $2.50 for premium, and 12k a year (which is a lot more than I drive).
The 8 only goes back to 2004, but you can check current "book" used values here, KBB, NADA, etc for a 2004 S VS a 2004 8 and get an idea about resale value (hint: if Mazda can't sell them new w/o incentives then you would have to discount a used one to sell it).
Anyway, I have my cake and eat it too - so I don't have to choose. They are similar in "spirit" - a light, great handling, tossible, high revving car. One has a better track record and drop top (which is the best part) the other is a little "shaky" but has a fixed roof and 4 seats. If you don't have a winter car to drive, then the 8 would make more sense (along with 4 snow tires). Heck, I picked up an old Subaru Legacy AWD for cheap for snow days so I don't drive EITHER car to work when it snows
Sounds like the 8 is the one talking to you. Be sure to test drive USED sample of both so you can redline them on an engine that has been broken in. Neither motor shows its true colors until the tach sweeps past 4-5k. Nothing WRONG with choosing the 8 - just go in with your eyes wide open to the oil and gas consumption issues.
#2751 of 3618 dtopgear
Aug 04, 2005 (8:46 am)
I got the impression they were referring to Japan market cars. But I'd love to see that connectivity in U.S. market cars too.
#2752 of 3618 Re: iPod interface built into the 2006 RX-8? [dtopgear]
Aug 04, 2005 (11:22 am)
You can get it for a lot of cars now - and for a ton of aftermarket stereos. All have the same complaint - too slow. The reason? The ipod serial interface for control. I don't think anything short of a redesign will fix that, and then all the interfaces would likely have to be redone. I love my ipod, but I don't use it much in the cars since I have XM and MP3 players so really don't care that much about the interface.
#2753 of 3618 My 8 don't come with Bose system,
Aug 05, 2005 (12:21 am)
it only equips with standard 6CD and MD player. Although I have raised such request when I ordered the car, this option is not available here. So, where can I get the original Bose system with 9 speakers, or any after market stereo that can fix into the dashboard?
#2755 of 3618 Check engine light
Aug 05, 2005 (5:01 pm)
I've heard stories about the Check Engine light coming on. Mine came on 4 nights ago when I was driving home. It stayed on for a few days. But then this morning when I started my car, it was off. Has anyone experienced the same? I wonder what caused the light to come on.
Aug 05, 2005 (5:26 pm)
Just wanted to say that my new set of Potenzas are fantastic! It really is a night and day difference from the old 30K mile Potenzas I had on. I love the grip of this tire. I was told to purchase another type, but I went with what came with the car - figured the makers of the RX8 knew what they were doing!
And again for anyone still trying to figure out what car to get - the RX8 is the best damn car I've owned! So much fun! My 13 year old godson told me that in 3 years I "should sell the car to him cheap."........HA! dream on little buddy!......
Now, everyone go enjoy your RX8 ride this weekend while I am stuck in a building working!!...LOL!
#2757 of 3618 Re: gas mileage & sales figures [mthmsim]
Aug 08, 2005 (7:02 pm)
I love the car, but as Car and Driver said in their long term wrap up "there is a reason other car companies don't make a rotary"
#2758 of 3618 I think anything out of the ordinary that is not...
Aug 09, 2005 (7:24 am)
super-exclusive, is a gamble for car companies. Our Chrysler dealer here has only had about 5 Crossfires, they still have 3 and 2 of them are 2004's. They are niche cars just like the rx8. I think the key to it is not overproducing cars that the majority of people are not interested in. I simply think they produced way more rx8's than there was a viable market for and they have done a very small amount of poorly targeted marketing for the car. So be it. I love mine and the less of them on the road, the happier it makes me!!