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Mazda RX-8, Coupe
Jan 21, 2004 (8:10 am)
I haven't seen many RX-8s on the road, probably due to the winter. However, I figure the RX-8 can be just as good of a vehicle during the winter since the better version comes with heated seats and the rear wheel handling is just fine. I haven't been to a dealership for awhile so I don't know how many vehicles were on the lot. Since it's a mass produced vehicle, it shouldn't surprise people that there are several on the lot of any dealership. That's quite normal. This doesn't mean that the car isn't selling well like some posters here claim. I like how the RX-8 is making other car manufacturers work harder to bring a better product for a lower price into the marketplace. The Mazda 3 is adding to that idea.
I don't believe any car is jumping off the lots right now or any car really ever does. Before I purchased my new car, I also looked at SUVs. I was all over the place in my selection. It was mid-December and they were giving discounts on SUVs as well...so slow selling isn't just attributed to sports cars. Unless a car has just come out and is extremely limited (which is rare in itself), salespeople have to put some work into selling it. I was fortunate with my S2000. It was 1 of 2 2004s that the dealership had and I was able to get a nice deal. The Honda Penske dealership is one of the biggest in the country so I was lucky. They sell about 12 to 15 S2000s a year. Though, I had to go to the GM of the dealership to get the deal I was wanting. The inital salespeople weren't giving anything off of it and I became frustrated in dealing with them. My best advice for anyone looking for a new car is to skip the initial salesperson...and go directly to the sales manager or a higher up. I know they are busy but they know exactly how much they can give on a car and are concerned more with moving a car to add to the bottomline on numbers (than solely with commission). You will also get a better feel of how the dealership operates when you are able to deal with a person who has more control over things. If you know exactly what you want and what you are willing to pay, a sales manager or GM can't claim in being too busy to assist you. I called ahead and set up a time and that's all it took. If they claim they don't have time for you and some Joe Salesperson will be glad to help you instead, you just got an incite on how that dealership works. It amazes me on how intimidated people are who go shopping for cars (no matter what their age is) and take whatever the dealership gives them...whether in price for a car or a salesperson. Good luck!
Jan 21, 2004 (2:14 pm)
I was told Mazda sold all the planned production for this model year and made a new batch. That's what we see on the lots. Here in Canada they are still in short supply.
Jan 22, 2004 (7:08 am)
They might have sold the 12K they planned to in 2003, but the model year on the lots will be the same. There should be more than usual since they are planning to sell 30K this year. January and February will be good months for people to purchase it. They will have the winter advantage and more supply to keep prices down.
Jan 23, 2004 (7:31 am)
Shifting into 6th is not just a "straight shot" from 5th to 6th. That was done on purpose. I remember reading in the hardcover RX book that all us "pre-order" folks received that this was the case. I just can't remember the reason.
The "chug" sound you mention on initial take-off is normal. That is just the ABS calibrating itself.
#1732 of 3618 winter car?
Jan 23, 2004 (4:07 pm)
Im entertaining the fantasy of leasing an RX8 as a second vehicle. Do any of you drive this car full time in Canadian winter? Im talking Edmonton type winter - snow and ice on roads, etc. How does it handle that?
Jan 24, 2004 (7:39 am)
Like any car with "sport/summer" tires, the RX8 isn't going to be very good in winter with the tires from the factory. Although, I don't drive mine in the snow, I've heard reports that with winter tires and the DSC, the RX8 does quite well in snow and ice.
Jan 24, 2004 (9:06 am)
My friend here in Edmonton drives his. He bought 17" wheels and Nokian WR tires at Caltire and it works great. He figured he had to get more fenderwell clearance for ice/snow buildup. He used the stock profile, so the tire/wheel combination is smaller (5% error on speedo) but the car actually works better than with the stock size (18") he thinks.
The combination of DSC (dynamic stability control) and ABS as well as near 50/50 weight distribution in combination with low torque from the rotary makes it a breeze to drive.
Before one of you Americans askes how he gets around the tire pressure monitor, we don't have that in Canada (yet). Some of those in the US who have gone to winter wheels just ignore the light. Some taped it over. Some purchased four new sender units for the winter wheels.
Jan 24, 2004 (1:05 pm)
Cool, thanks Pathstar - so, I take it he's very happy with the car?
Jan 25, 2004 (8:37 am)
"so, I take it he's very happy with the car?"
He was not impressed with the power reduction issue or the mis-truths or whatever they were MNAO put out about it. So he considered returning it on the return program and looked at his options re other vehicles. Turned out nothing was more tempting, much of the other stuff was worse (he had a 350Z trackpack ordered etc. but the dealers were so silly he cancelled). The WRX Sti was very tempting, but the Canadian dealers are crazy if they think we are going to give them $6000+ over invoice. The G35 was considered, but rejected.
He has since fixed the power reduction issue (see Canzoomer's Stage 1 mod.). The car is a hoot. There are so many well thought out "little things". It handles, and is fast even without his fix. It just doesn't throw you back into the seat. Speed kind of sneaks up on you with this car.
I want one too! (I have a 3rd gen RX-7 as my toy)
#1737 of 3618 went to Mazda today
Jan 25, 2004 (4:48 pm)
I like the car in black Would be dirty all the time in winter, but if you kept it clean in summer -MAN that would be sharp. The only things I found not to my liking were:
no telescopic steering wheel - I think the Mazda 3 (I have one) spoiled me for that.
the driver side door closed in a sorta rattle-y way. Seemed to lack that solid feel. Kinda surprised me actually. The window was down though, so it might be that.
Im only 5' 11" and my hair felt like it was brushing the ceiling. That surprised me too.
Other than that: sweeet.