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#452 of 914 Slipping Clutch??
Apr 08, 2008 (4:18 pm)
I own a 2005 Toyota Echo RS Hatchback with 53000km on it. purchased new and very satisfied with its fun value and practicality. After a recent service the dealer advised me that the clutch is slipping, particularly when passing at highway speeds, and that I should replace the clutch cover, clutch disc and release bearing. They had previously said the same thing at 35000km. I can't say that I have noticed any difference over the past 18000km so am somewhat concerned what is going on. Has anyone else had similar clutch problems? I have driven a manual shift for over 40 years and this is the first time I have ever had such a problem. I am tempted to replace the clutch, if I have to, with a TRD street performance unit. Comments are welcome!!
Apr 08, 2008 (4:50 pm)
Is there an oil leak between the engine and transmission? That is the only way I know of to cause this problem. Since you report no problem yourself, I strongly suspect the dealer is full of it. I would get the car away from them if I were you.
#454 of 914 slipping clutch
Apr 08, 2008 (6:01 pm)
there doesn't appear to be any oil leak externally and I have not needed to add oil to the engine so I don't think that there is an internal leak. I am concerned that the problem, if there is one, may be caused by a faulty release bearing and believe that the whole situation should be covered under warranty. The dealer is saying that I would have to pay for everything. I expect that I will continue to drive the car and see if anything develops. Thanks for your comments.
Apr 08, 2008 (6:29 pm)
I dont see how a release bearing could cause this problem. Generally if there is a genuine problem with the clutch then YOU would know about it long before the dealer sees it. Good luck and I seldom hear about problems like that in an ECHO!
#456 of 914 Re: Slipping Clutch?? [gmg016]
Apr 09, 2008 (1:55 am)
i agree w/previous poster that you should find a new mechanic...try cartalk.com "mechanix files" to find a good one close by (and to see if others have had problems w/yours)
Apr 09, 2008 (9:36 am)
Any clutch that was truly slipping at 35K would not still be slipping at 53K, it would have given up the ghost long before now. And if you have been driving a stick for 40 years I am sure you know what a slipping clutch feels like, no?
Take it up to 45 or 50 mph, put it in 5th, and floor it. If the engine revs jump way up with no appreciable increase in speed, the clutch is slipping. If the engine just drones at a low rpm and speed begins to increase, it's fine. In the second case, you should discontinue patronage of that dealership as soon as possible.
My Echo has its original clutch at 100K miles, and gives no subtle messages that it might be thinking of dying any time soon...
PS if you discover that it really does have a slipping clutch, then you pull out that paperwork from the 35K service and you go after warranty coverage aggressively. For the throwout bearing to quit after only 35K kilometers, it would have to be pretty lousy and probably a defective part.
#460 of 914 Just curious about maintenance (2003 Echo)
Apr 26, 2008 (12:52 pm)
I have an '03 Echo, my first car. Just curious about costs of periodic maintenance.
Today I did my 30,000 mile scheduled maintenance at the Toyota dealership. I assume that a dealer will be more expensive than other options...just curious if the following are reasonable:
1) Replaced Front Brake pads [Parts+Labor=$140]
2) Four-Wheel Alignment [Parts+Labor=$80]
3) Exterior Drive Belt Replacement [Parts+Labor=$56]
4] Lube Oil and Filter Service [Parts+Labor=$43]
5) Oil [Parts+Labor=$23]
6) Tires replaced (had dry rot?) and Installed (Bridgestone) [Parts+Labor=$369]
7) Fuel Induction Cleaning Service [Parts+Labor=$130]
Total Cost (including misc fees): $970.
Just curious is this is typical, Thanks
#461 of 914 Re: Just curious about maintenance (2003 Echo) [echo2003]
Apr 26, 2008 (2:37 pm)
no particular item looks too bad --tho i don't know what fuel induction cleaning is--but my advice is just change the oil every 5,000 miles and service anything that goes wrong