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Lexus SC 430, Convertible
#626 of 1200 500SL vs. SC 430....the truth based on experience
Aug 31, 2003 (9:19 am)
I have owned 5 500SL's including the new designo....i traded it in 2 months for the SL 55 which i love....but have just sold last night....i still have my lorinser 2003 500 SL but i bought a nieman marcus 2002 SC 430 and for 30 K less this car is worth the price....i do agree the tires and ride and exterior styling are substandard with MB .....but not 30K worth.....I am listing my lorinser Tues morning....this is my first lexus so i'll give it a try for 6 months and get with you then!!!
#627 of 1200 Overall experience
Sep 07, 2003 (5:32 am)
Here is the deal. I drove a 1998 MB E320 for the last five years. The MB service experience has been awful. No loaner cars, long waits for service, poor waiting areas. My girlfriend drives a VW beetle and she gets a complimentry loaner car. While the overall performance of the E320 was good with no major probs and a few minor ones, I have satisfied my ego need to be a MB owner.
I just purchased a 2003 SC430 with run flats. Yes, it pulls from time to time, but other than that it is a fantastic vehicle. And the improvement of having Lexus come to me to pick up my vehicle and drop off a complimentary loaner cannot be overemphasized.
The interior luxuries and details are unmatched by anyone. It is a joy to drive this car. I just have to be certain to relocate and find a new job in Florida as I do not look forward to a Michigan winter in any coupe.
Sep 17, 2003 (12:00 am)
It is curious to me that every time the so called automag experts review the sc430 they are fairly critical of this cars handling and appearance.
While I do not consider this car to be a sport car and styling is always subjective ; it is quite obvious to me that the purists are heavily
biased towards "classic" luxury cars of old (namely BMW and Mercedes). I drive the sc430 in the mountains often and can attest to its fast,sound and reassuring reflexs. It is NOT razor sharp. But I have seen numerous comments about this car's handling being "ponderous" or unsettling......Hardly! And the looks are definitely sporty, daring and most onlookers think gorgeous. Certainly this is a more daring and interesting deseign (from Lexus!!!!!!) than a
mercedes clk .....is it just me.....but the clk is a conservative look. If the Lexus was this conservative you can be sure it would have lost points for being boring!! Yet the "experts" refer to the sc styling as unbalanced and ......yes...."pumkinseed" styling in one mag.
Personally I think it is NEW, different and even stunning.............though I would like to see Lexus make this car smaller and lighter....it is NOT a trim deseign.
Just my observations and opinion. Any others?
Sep 17, 2003 (3:36 am)
Now there is some truth to what you're saying. Anytime a comparo has a Lexus and a Porsche in it, someone is going to loose badly...depending on the criteria being judged. I think the Lexus is a luxury machine first, but it hasn't always lost this contest based solely on it's lack of performance or it's looks.
Several magazines have also knocked the car for it's lack of body rigidity, it's always knocked for this especially when compared to the SL, XLR or 911, which are constantly praised for having a tighter body structure and a "tighter" overall build. My own personal take on the SC430 is that it's an interesting car, but it's too close to being a 2-door LS430 in it's driving, and it does claim to be a "GT" car afterall, that implies more excitement than it is able to provide. It wears 18-inch wheels/tires that promise a better drive than it delivers. I'm sure the car is not sloppy in it's handling, but what the mags find is that it doesn't match the class leaders, and it's not like those cars have punishing rides either, 911 excluded. The Lexus also has a rather garish interior when you specify the light wood with the dark leather, it simply looks to busy (overdone) compared to say the XLR or SL, which look better integrated. I personally think it's a big omission on Lexus' part by not having any kind of rollover protection.
Compared to the old CLK the SC430 is more of standout, but not in a favorable way I guess to many. I see the old CLK Cabriolet as a classic looking Benz, the proportions are just so right, it's very hard to top styling wise. The SC430 comes off looking like a ladybug or upside down bathtub in comparision, it's not sleek like a roadster should be, it's too upright and bulbous. That said, I personally find it to be an interestingly styled car, not ugly at all just weird....but shockingly I can see where it would appeal to people. I'll say too, that the new CLK Cabrio does nothing for me stylewise either.
#630 of 1200 Can't do that
Sep 17, 2003 (6:03 am)
1. You can't specify the light wood with the dark leather; the light wood come with and only with the "ecru" (off white) interior.
2. The word "it's" is a contraction, not a possessive pronoun.
3. I agree; the SC430 is not a Porsche and isn't trying to be; that's why I like it.
Sep 17, 2003 (8:21 pm)
Either way it's still tacky looking and to over-the-top.
#632 of 1200 Sc430 interior..............
Sep 19, 2003 (12:55 am)
Most people who have ventured an opinion on the sc interior/dash have thought it was among THE nicest and tasteful interior ever seen on a car.
And while the exterior could be more sleek and less "bulbous" (I see this too!) I get nothing but "wows" from the "average" non-car nut dude on the street. I still think (because it is a
daring style statement) this car gets more (positively!)noticed than most beamers and Mercs,
Incidentally, I have the dark wood interior with saddle leather..........both unique and beautiful to most.
If I could throw out my practical side that loves Luxury, reliability AND Value..........I would want a porsche.
Sep 19, 2003 (3:06 am)
Any non-car person would be wowed by any of these cars, so I'm not sure exactly what that means. How do you know it gets noticed more than a BMW Z8 or Mercedes SL?
Sep 19, 2003 (8:27 am)
Occasionally a Lexus hater trolls on a Lexus board such as the above. I agree with most observers that the SC interior is one of the most luxurious and ergonomic in the business. Most enthusiasts acknowledge that Lexus' and Audis are among the most well done interiors.