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1867 messages, Last post on Nov 26, 2009 at 6:20 PM
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Replying to: bolivar (Dec 05, 2008 1:46 am) I should have specified that the service advisor says I have between 20% and 50 % (20-50%) of my front pads left. Both left and right side front brakes are worn the same. I have a Mazda MPV. At each oil change, or service, the dealership does a "full circle inspection". They check brakes, tires, battery, fluid levels etc. If whatever they check is in good condition it's given a green check mark , if it requires service soon then yellow, if requires immediate attention then red. My last oil change 4 months ago my brakes were given a green check. Which means there was 50% or more left on the brake pads. The other day, during my oil change, the service advisor came on told me the pads were at 20%. Suggested I replace now as damage to rotors can occur if I let if go too long. Now here's the thing. The service advisor first tells me front pads are at 20% and also wants to replace the back. Upon further questioning he says the back brakes are okay, but the front needs replacing. When I take a good look at my recommendation checklist, it says brakes checked in the yellow category means they have between 20 and 50% of pad left. I don't think pads go from 50% to 20% in 4 months, (my last oil change). So, I'm thinking my brakes are a bit worn. They fall in yellow at 20 to 50% of pad left.... probably around 40%. So, the service advisor tries the hardball approach to upselling by saying I have 20% left, instead of 20-50% left. When I told the advisor I wanted to think about it, he offered to let me have a 10% off coupon which would save me around $24. I then said I wanted to hold off on any repairs at this time. This dealership just moved to a new location, the service department is never that busy. So, I'm thinking management is really pushing hard for the upsell. Probably going to get a second opinion as to whether the brakes need replacing. Thus far they have braked very good.... no problems.
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Replying to: jipster (Dec 05, 2008 5:12 am) |
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I have a 1999 gmc savanna conversion van that 90 % of the stopping power is on the front "poor braking" all of the pads & linings are in new condition. Could the problem be in the propotioning valve? if so can you replace with an adjustable? It does have antilock. |
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opinions needed... just priced oem rotors for my '06 honda accord. i don't mind the extra expense if it makes a difference. what would you say? oem or aftermarket? many thanks in advance. dennis |
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Replying to: yooper53 (May 08, 2009 12:32 pm) Obviously real HONDA brake-rotors should be quality and long-lasting. HOWEVER: Aftermarket quality is all over the map (literally) When it comes to brake-rotors, If you ask at the parts-counter, you will be given a range of prices (and quality) Some of the el-cheepo rotors (made in mexico) parts may rust out within 2 years. It is not worth your time to install the el-cheepo rotors unless you are planning on selling the car soon. On the other hand, brand-name rotors such as "Bendix", "Zimmermann" or "Brembo" could be as good as OEM. ("Zimmermann" is hi-quality German steel used on Porsche!) I realize you did not ask about pads... but this is where braking-performance will be different. (Various rotors do not alter braking-performance much at all) DO NOT install so-called "high performace" brakepads, you may be sorry. These type of pads need to be warmed up before they start to work well. This means that a "panic stop" will NOT have full breaking power. When it comes to pads, If you want to change, it is usually better to go with a mild upgrade from stock. Also make certain that you"season" new rotors before bedding the pads. Taking the time to do this will reward you with long-lasting brakes. (most-likely as long as you own your car)
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Replying to: bpeebles (May 08, 2009 6:57 pm) Agree whole-heartedly. To add................... If your vehicle came with metallic, semi-metallic or what ever, replace with like kind. Sometimes, replacing organic with metallic (upgrading) can result in early rotor failure. I always recommend OEM brake pads, for the simple reason that the brake pads are designed for the rotors that are on your vehicle. |
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Replying to: yooper53 (May 08, 2009 12:32 pm) Talk to your mechanic. he can recommend a good brand. |
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Hi Folks- I'm new to CarSpace Forum. Appreciate your feedback. I have a ’05 Volvo, S/60 2.5T AWD. Has 45k mi. Bought it w/ 16k mi. I haven’t done any repair to the brakes yet and doubt the previous owner did. While braking I get pulsation feedback from the brake pedal and a little from the steering wheel. Much more pronounced when hard hiway braking vs.city. Replaced original tires w/ Bridgestone Potenza G019's Tires
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Replying to: ayc (May 16, 2009 7:50 pm)
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